What's up with the Bot posts here?

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[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

I complained to the admin about unicorn and dcjogger and both of them are still around.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

We don't know what to do, some of the posts are alright

[–]FormosaOolong 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

yeah, they kinda are, even if they're way OT in some instances. I get a kick out of imagining the random OT rants as like the old guys you used to see on the sidewalk with handwritten doomsday sandwich boards and a newspaper hat.

[–]Chipit 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Any bot posts get an account removed. When they come back with a new account hit that too.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I think we'd be willing to make that a rule if their was a good consensus. You could make a post about it and try to get some yays and nays.

[–]Chipit 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

There would be people who would not support banning bots? Who would be in favor of endless nonsensical messages posted in every thread?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I think people want some comment bots, not that we have them, like archive bots and video downloader bots. But as far as post bots, yeah I don't think anyone wants those.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I would!!!

But only under predetermined circumstances - possibly determined by some openly democratic means (TBD), or by permission of the M7D3 admins.

Half the time YouTube doesn't notify you. I don't know why. Facebook doesn't seem to forget anything, yet they soft censor much.

Let's say you would rather just come to SaidIt for your aggregated news, rather than all the regular places sapping your time/energy, etc. Each bot could have it's own sub. ie. /s/Bot_ZeroHedge, /s/Bot_JimmyDore, /s/Bot_BlackPigeonSpeaks, /s/Bot_Electroverse, etc. All of these would have to meet certain criteria to be exist.

If you don't like a source, you unsub and/or mute it. If you don't want to read/watch, don't.

Like newsreaders but interactive, post-bots have the potential to change the reddit-like paradigm in many obvious and not-obvious ways. Or it can be as ignored as the wikis. IMO, the most important part would be HOW the criteria for determining what are acceptable or not. It could easily spin out into chaos the way the subs have, or it can be preemptively dealt with. Maybe I'm a pessimist in believing the bots are inevitable, sooner or later. Maybe not. I don't pretend to have all the answers, or know how to run things or be a great leader, but I think it's worth discussing.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yep, very valid points, that's why I want everyone's input. Maybe we could still allow post bots, but require that they have bot in the name, like you said.

/u/dcjogger_bot

/u/unicorn_bot

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

And/Or maybe have dedicated subs to contain them:
/s/dcjogger_bot
/s/unicorn_bot

I emailed you some more brainstorming ideas on this too. Feel free to reedit and rework any or all of it to present to SaidIt. If you like I can help do that under the guidance of M7D3 too. When it's up to snuff then you guys can present it to everyone, and maybe build up a little community of interest (ie. /s/SaidItBots ). My posts are hit or miss. I'm in no hurry. In fact I'd rather revisit this in a couple months. My top priorities right now:

  • Covid
  • Bittersweet Seeds
  • multiple CSS themes
  • upcoming WikiSpooks 10 year anniversary + starting WikiSpooks newsletters
  • then other things, like bots, maybe a SaidIt newsletter, store, etc

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There are many potentially good uses for bots, and they can do different functions. Not all are bad.

[–]RickC-137[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

I have a feeling that they are linked to the site in some way.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

It's an interesting way to study human interactions with it and build up stronger A.I.

Only recently I've considered adding social forum "training" as part of the backstory of my fictional A.I. in the story I'm writing. Seems obvious now, but would have included it earlier if I'd thought of it sooner.

[–]RickC-137[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

One of my life theories is that we are AI's being cultivated. We get our real body tech after this.

[–]FormosaOolong 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Dude, write a screenplay. This is genius.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Seriously!

I am.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not a fan of this simulation of suffering.

I'm also not into the after life. Why wait? What would our body tech be? Same but different? Or completely different? And why would we need to be cultivated and tested? What are the criteria for advancement?

[–]RickC-137[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

"criteria for advancement". That's exactly it. That's why we are cultivated. Who wants crazy evil AI? You'd want to pick and choose who to bring into reality.

I mean. It actually fits with the dumbed down Biblical version that would have been needed at that point.

Who knows what kind of bodies we'd get, but at that point we have interchangeable bodies that you could switch sort of like new Battlestar Galactica.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Far out man.