Thanks for the links and I agree that the stuff that has come and is coming out of China just cannot be believed. Did you see the jpeg Tom_Bombadil posted of supposedly Chinese people in hasmat suits fooling around with what were supposed to be thousands ofurns of those who died of WuFlu? They will be delivered to relatives. Would they go to so much trouble? That is way too outrageous to even consider. And Tom says it was in the NYT. I think this is further proof that China, and that group who run that one big business we call the world, are all one and the same and have been for who knows how long. And yes, I think this period is not yet the time for killing all us plebeians since they can do that at their leisure later on. Now they want to scare hell out of us and push through martial law. They are all in it together and the war talk is to make us afraid, keep our heads down, and obey. Thanks for actual links; I'm just flapping my jaws.