Ten more experts criticising the coronavirus panic

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[–]hennaojichan[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Thanks for the links and I agree that the stuff that has come and is coming out of China just cannot be believed. Did you see the jpeg Tom_Bombadil posted of supposedly Chinese people in hasmat suits fooling around with what were supposed to be thousands ofurns of those who died of WuFlu? They will be delivered to relatives. Would they go to so much trouble? That is way too outrageous to even consider. And Tom says it was in the NYT. I think this is further proof that China, and that group who run that one big business we call the world, are all one and the same and have been for who knows how long. And yes, I think this period is not yet the time for killing all us plebeians since they can do that at their leisure later on. Now they want to scare hell out of us and push through martial law. They are all in it together and the war talk is to make us afraid, keep our heads down, and obey. Thanks for actual links; I'm just flapping my jaws.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

I got the impression the urns being delivered were empty urns in the boxes, at least in the photo I saw. But yeah there is a lot of weird inconsistencies going on that need to be dug in to

[–]hennaojichan[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Oh, so the empty urns are going to be used in the near future? That is a not sarcasm but I don't get it. I surely do not understand what exactly is going on but I do know the smell of BS. To me it is hilarious to think that the Chinese Government even cares about urns when a big hole in the ground would be much more expeditious. Have you noticed that there seems to a movement to go soft on the Chinese Government recently? Oh, they are just victims and we are all Chinese now. I do not buy it, not even a little. M7, that is not meant to be disrespectful; somehow I always think of you as a good first lieutenant or captain who did one enlistment, woke up, and got out. But I'm not asking for personal information. Respect.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

It's okay to disagree, I don't mind. I'm no fan of the CCP, or any other authoritarian government, for that matter.

I'm just clarifying on the urn thing, based on what I saw. But I'm by no means the final word on anything, people need to come to their own conclusions after doing their own research

[–]hennaojichan[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I don't even disagree; I just can't imagine why they want thousands of empty urns. I would never disagree in this climate of uncertainty. Well, I might but not on this issue.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Maybe there was word of an urn shortage and it caused a panic in one area. Or maybe it's just a normal shipment of urns, I would assume a crematorium probably buys them by the hundred during normal times anyway, especially if they're on sale (as might be happening because the Chinese economy is collapsing much like many economies around the world).

There's lots of reasons. It's interesting, but I don't know if the urn thing by itself is evidence of much by itself. Maybe if there is smoke coming from the crematorium 24/7, or tons of dead bodies are being brought in, then we'd have a bombshell to focus on.

Right now I think this is probably the most significant thing happening in China: https://saidit.net/s/WorldNews/comments/3ltj/hubei_residents_riot_after_quarantine_lifted/

Their government is becoming unstable in some areas. Anyway, didn't mean to write so much, you just got me thinking about stuff.

[–]hennaojichan[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Hey, it's your site so write all you want. This is not to leave out d3rr. My question is why are a bunch of urns—anywhere—deemed newsworthy by the NYT? Congratulations to you both for doing such a great job here. I sound like what we used to call a brown nose but I mean it.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Thanks. It can be a lot of work on some days, but it's worth it.

Why's it deemed newsworthy by the NYT, now that's a good question in itself. Probably because they're trying to create some anti-China spin, because that best serves the US government. Focusing on foreign enemies takes the spotlight of domestic friction, which keeps the status quo intact. They're trying to create fears China is killing people en masse in secret. Which is possible. But if this is the best evidence they have, I'm not yet convinced.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Focusing on foreign enemies takes the spotlight of domestic friction, which keeps the status quo intact.

That's what is seems. The enemy has changed from Iraq and the middle-eastern countries to China.

[–]hennaojichan[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Thank you for your service. I think the urns make the Chinese Government seem sympathetic, human, and Confucian but the opposite is true. That kinder, gentler image of China is what the NYT wants us to believe. That is entirely my speculation. They are all in it together, also my opinion but as you said, at this point who knows?

Now, I'm going to the gym. I expect one other guy will be there and three young ladies will be going around spraying disinfectant on everything. I don't know where they get the alcohol from but it is all tied down with some synthetic thread that would require bolt cutters if someone wanted to steal the bottles.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

G7? G20? Is the US and China members?

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's lots of unilateral neoconservative propaganda against China which now stands in the way of unilateral geopolitical agendas. It's an industrial, economic war.

China, of course, is no saint. It does appear though that some idealogues in the oligarch ciricles of the US are promoting China and its surveillance system as a doable system that could be implemented; not that America doesn't already have mass surveillance, so it might just be a perception management campaign to desensitize people.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The NYT's for 120 years has been known to be the arm of the oligarchs and bankers. They can legally lie to you and do it daily. So I would ask the question, what are they TRYING TO CONVEY TO YOU?

[–]hennaojichan[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

NYT was using the the term six quadrillion Jews since about 1900, repeatedly, as I'm sure you know.

What are trying to convey? China is good and we should feel their pain because we are all Chinese now. Let China and Israel show you the way to the New World Order. Follow the Yellow Brick Road.

Right now my Internet is way too slow for this time of evening. Maybe they are about to pull the plug. It's almost Easter time. Time of rebirth:

A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

The Second Coming by William Butler Yeats (fragment) ———— Is the Sphinx slouching toward Bethlehem to be born? It's not Jesus that will be born this time but ancient Egyptian mythological demons—Isis, Horace, Set—that banksters and people like the Rothschilds and their overlords worship. Then, according to Yeats, we will have a thousand years of darkness.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Staging photos is pretty common. It could simply be a shipment of urns and the photo was used as spin for a different narrative.