if CIA are willing to kidnap children and distribute drugs in its own homeland then distributing a dangerous virus in another country to destroy their economy doesn't sound too far fetched

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[–]magnora7 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Imagine this: They sell china the bioweapon, requiring it to be in their level 4 lab.

China buys the bioweapon and stores it in that lab in wuhan.

A few months later, whoever sold them the bioweapon releases that same bioweapon right next to the level 4 biolab.

Was it a leak? Was it deliberate? It's impossible to tell, even for China. Also take in to account it targets ACE2 receptors in the lungs, which are more present in males and Asians. So it literally targets Asian males. Why would China develop a bioweapon that targets their own population demographic?

Interesting to think about. Of course it could be a genuine accidental leak as well. It's looking like China is starting to admit it was most likely a human-developed bioweapon though, and not from bats or pangolins. Some in the US gov't are starting to say the same as well.

[–]taylor 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I never thought about this specific scenario, but it would probably be the best way to go about doing this. I just assumed that the CIA had something to do with it. The US stands to gain the most from this virus. China is ruined for decades, if not generations. This virus pretty much guarantees Trump a win in the trade war, kills China's economy and reputation, and ensures China won't take over the US economically or militarily anytime soon. And this is before we even know the entire truth of what's happening on the ground there.

One thing I find to be super suspicious is that as soon as Coronavirus breaks out, the US government arrests like 5 people with illegal connections to China: Harvard professor and chair of genetic department; Chinese students in the US including one PLA member; a Raytheon engineer who was allegedly selling US missile secrets to China; two Chinese students who were taking pics of a military base; charging Huawei with racketeering and threatening to sanction any other country who does business with Huawei.

All of these within a month of the virus breaking out. No way this is a coincidence.

[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You present an entirely plausible scenario. It's unbelievably sad to think we allow ourselves to behave in ever more horrific ways like this.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

"We" don't. Don't blame humanity as a whole for the actions of a terrible few, imo.

[–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You're right. I say "we" though in the sense that humans have been, for millennia, wittingly or unwittingly, educating each other into accepting more and more atrocious, unrealistic, deluded concepts and ways of being. Most of us can't even see actual Reality anymore, and don't know that the thoughts and ideas in our heads are not even ours. I say "we" in the sense that we all bear some responsibility (and I don't mean blame here) for those terrible few having grabbed the reins, for their wrong ideas having usurped our perceptions, and for their ongoingly horrible actions continuing to become more horrible.

If we don't recognize our collective part in it, how will we ever stop the crap? It's kind of like, imo, a body system's white blood cells have to recognize not only the pathogen, but their innate capacity to go out and overcome it. And it's sad when the WBCs get so tired of fighting on every front that they are no longer able to hold the viruses and parasites at bay.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I see what you mean and I agree. However at the same time, there are people who have literally given their lives to try and correct this sort of thing. Lots of and lots of people, in fact. And by saying "we don't care" you're dismissing the very hard work and effort that millions have already put in to this, to try and correct it, just because you're not seeing the outcome you prefer. It comes across as a bit dismissive of past struggles, tbh, almost stated as if we've just invented the concept of standing up for morals, haha. That's all I mean.

[–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh dear, I didn't mean to be or sound dismissive, thank you for pointing it out! I think it comes down to the fact that I see everything as an Us, in the sense that the goods/bads/neutrals are all part of one, let's say, organism. You are entirely correct that it is important to keep the inclusive totality in mind, and not fall into despair about the destructive bits. While it is also important to recognize and identify the destructive forces, we can't resolve those unless and until we recognize our power and capacity to do so. And encourage the collective being to honor and support its strong fighters, rather than persecute them and put them into places like Belmarsh.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agree completely, we have to take the good along with the bad, but still keep our eyes on where we're trying to go. Things aren't so bad, but they could always be better.