William Cooper, Templar, George Bush, Kings, Myths, Holy Grail, Cults, Conspiracy and Questions.

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This is a (still unfortunately long) summary of an almost 40 minute video I made, which even I consider insufferable. TL;DR at the bottom.

However the information in it forms a theory I'd like to discuss - /u/issues7 inspired me to summarize it.

Note: The geneology website I am using has two types of pages: "MP" or master page, which is "correct" and entries marked "fictitious person" in huge letters at the top. Everything I am pointing to is a MP unless otherwise marked.

It's fairly common belief the "elite" are obsessed with genealogy.

In this "episode" of Bill Cooper's radio show, he lists the geneology of how Pappy Bush is related to a Templar, called Robert "of furfan" De Ros (Ross, Rose). He was a highly influential figure - and even married the daughter, Isabel, of King William the Lion of Scots.

I followed Cooper's show through that website's genealogy data and (with a few errors on Bill's part) I managed to see: yes, that relation appears true.

Then I wondered, why stop there? So I went backward from King William and discovered a few things (some common knowledge, some not).

1) The British Royal family, comes FROM the Scottish line of Kings.

2) The first of these Scottish/Pict line of kings, is "Kenneth Alpin"

3) The geneology database says he has no father. Nice.

Wikipedia says his father is the 111th King of Ireland (known as Dal Riata) - which is apparently "mythical". Apparently Ireland was already on #111 while the Scots and Brits were still getting drunk and painting themselves blue...

I suspended disbelief, as with any obvious fiction - and followed the wikipedia trail of "son of... son of... son of..." all the way back to the FIRST Milesian King of Ireland - the lineage is unbroken, though there are Kings from (potentially) other lineages in there, it kind of alternates (mostly due to violence it seems).

Story says this guy is an Egyptian/Scythian mercenary, who began to sail to Ireland due to a prophecy from Moses (not kidding, this is really what some people believe...), with his wife Scota and children. He died before getting there, but some of his family made it (after magic sunk a lot of ships... (their story, not mine...)).

Legends say she brought the Stone of Scone with her - some believe it is the Pillow of Jacob - though scientific analysis says it's from nearby and not rare at all. (Let me take a small leap here and say maybe it wasn't the actual stone that was tested and the "real one", might be elsewhere...).

The "Pillow" is what Jacob slept on, when an angel told him to take his 12 children and wives to Egypt (we know what happened there...).

Following the various tales of the Stone of Scone and Scota, the identities and even dates change, but the nature of the arrival and the stone of scone are constant - as is the Hebrew sacredness of said the Pillow. Unfortunately for them - the Milesians arrived around 1500BC and the Pillow event wasn't until later... but hey, they don't seem to mind.

The only outside piece of information I have to inject here, is another Cooper show I had also watched on a topic called "british israelism" or "christian identity". It is a theory that the royals are actually related to the kings of Jerusalem (before it's destruction by Nebudchanezzar in 587BC) and that Christianity and Judaism are inherently linked.

In reality only the Torah Jews follow anywhere near anything of the Old Testament (and even then, only a few books), thus the label "judeo-christian" is an incorrect statement for regular Christians - but a semantically correct label for these people.

Long story short - I looked at the geneology page for the Last King of Jerusalem and found he had 3 sons and 1 daughter - who died in Egypt.

In Jeremiah 41:10 it says:

"Then Ishmael carried away captive all the residue of the people that were in Mizpah, even the king's daughters"

daughterS. I looked around - all the "official" sources: wikipedia, encyclopedia Britannica, chabad.org - all don't mention ANYTHING about him having ANY female off spring, let alone two or more.

I poked around the geneology website some more - found a lot of entries marked "fictitious", including this one - marked:

Birthdate: circa -610 Birthplace: Jerusalem, Israel Death: August 01, -534 (71-80) Odhbha, County Meath, Leinster, Ireland,

She even has a fictitous sister too - born around 1600 BCE - the OTHER possible date for "them" arriving in Ireland. Gotta cover both bases when you're making shit up, am I right?

1000 year old older sister... wow, these people don't even care about canon anymore. (I also noticed a few "similarities" and "suspicious" things about some of the people editing/maintaining these (and even MP) pages... but I can't quite put my finger on it... /s)

I roll my eyes, but continue because - how does this end?

Well it turns out that IF these theories were "true" (or... falsified...) then that would mean the royalty are related to the House of David. Similar to the "mary magdalene holy grail" conspiracy - but far less heretical and much easier to pull off!

"Find" her "tomb", "test" the "DNA" - hell the Tomb of David isn't even allowed to be looked at. You could fake both "ends" of the DNA test - without even having either body, lmao.

This is essentially the heart of the discovery, of my theory and of "british israelism" - a strange desire to return to "divine right to rule" and theocracy - completely at odds with the "CFR communist globalist atheist" agenda, no?

The primary attack thrown at this theory is that "well british israelism is dead, no one believes that garbage anymore..."

Take the strange portrait, you know - of the woman holding a golden cup in her hands... do a reverse image search and see how many results it brings up and what the suggested search results are - and then tell me "it's a dead theory with no followers".

Here, I did it for you.

She is the "real" Mary Magdalene, preserving the " real bloodline of the House of David" - not through Jesus, but through the Kings of Israel - holding the "real" grail.

"There's no theocratic right-wing conspiracy opposed to the globalist CFR communist agenda".

They are one faked archaeological discovery away from really screwing up the past and the future - if they wanted to they could probably do this on a moment's notice...

There are tens or hundreds of millions of followers of these "judeo-christian" and "christian-identity" churches (Pence gave a speech at one earlier this week, notice the distinct lack of Christian imagery?).

Since the goal of restoring the House of David would conflict with the current state of Israel, could it be safe to say that the rise of the anti-semitic right (when it is in the 60's, 70's a left-wing thing), is part of this game - the right, making a play to destroy the left...

Is it possible the "mary magdaline" conspiracy is pre-programming, to prime the minds for the "real" "davinci code" moment?

They are trying to write their bloodline together with an ancient one to extend authority over more lands and beliefs, but the dates and stuff don't line up quite correctly - and there are a few people and agendas in the way - they've been building the lie from both ends

Those are the questions I'm left with. If you're still here: thank you for hearing me out.

TL;DR

It's a right-wing religious arm of the "illuminati" who is at odds with the leftist communist atheist CFR types. The right used to be in charge when the church and divine right to rule was in power - then the enlightenment and american/french masonic revolutions changed the nature of the plebs they governed and they lost power.

They are only now starting to get back to work on us

You wanted a "god emperor" well you're going to get it.

STILL TL;DR: Genealogy -> cults -> conspiracy -> this woman is holding the "grail" because she's the daughter of the last king of Jerusalem and is the ancestor of all the irish, scottish and british monarchy - part of a belief system called British Israelism which is thought dead - but is most certainly not. Try it for yourself.

Watch my video linked at the top.

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Da Vinci Code:

ON

/u/Vigte, in all seriousness thank you for sharing. I always enjoy the content you share, it's always interesting. It's why I have you friended lol.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

Noice! I'm issues8. Deleted my other account because /u/tom_bombadil was getting weird for a minute, but this was fun to read!

At first, I couldn't understand the basis of where you were starting out but as your post progressed, your conclusions became a lot more clear. This clicks tremendously into various trends that I've observed as well and the future is disconcerting in relation, because it leads toward greater centralization of power as oppose to less in a few hands. They have been working towards this for a long time and are heavily biased in this direction despite, systemic inefficiencies with monarchies.

My guess is that trump officially rules the pyramid once he is re-elected unless a "mysterious" deus ex machina takes place to erase these plots (or to further them). The battle really steps into and over genealogy with 2 different sides of the debate. Either pro, or con.

Edit: Thanks for summarizing! MAD RESPEKT!

[–]Vigte[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (26 children)

It was a task, but I think I learned from doing it too, thank you again!

It's just a theory, but given what I've seen of "conspiracy culture" and "research" - there are quite a few odd, "unleftist" type conspiracies, that kind of get swept to the edges and blamed on the left, when brought up.

Things like Iran Contra, the JBS, cults like the moonies; they "feel unleftist" because they actually aren't - they're right-wing directed for religious/conservative/isolationist ends.

It always bothered me that "it's the jews" was such an easy and obvious conclusion to come to, it felt fake... like that's what someone wanted...

Fuck being a pawn - because if I am right, then this literally is chess... with two sides, they are just bidding for "pieces" (our support) right now to set up the board... and the centrists/moderates/common sense people are the targets. That's why people are being extremised in both directions, without any slowing... and why they make the world shitty and conspiracies obvious on purpose... to fuel the radicalization - so that WE will over throw the old world order and institute THEIRS, which ever side wins. Techno globalist dystopia, or religious fascist isolationist dystopia - they always give us two choices and no more.

Glad you enjoyed the post, thanks for giving it a shot! If you ever find anything interesting along these lines, feel free to tag me in a post about it!

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

jew

Because it's meant to encompass all Jews into one ideology of usury and speculation. It is a discredit tactic. Nice post by the way, maybe read the book From Yahweh to Zion by Laurent Guyenot, which gets into the whole bloodlines and royals, and the Knights Templars, Court Jews, and Marrano Jews who went onto create IOUs and banking dynasties backed by Amsterdam. There's more competing factors here, and to say it's all Jews is stupid, but to say it is none, is also not factually correct.

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It always bothered me that "it's the jews" was such an easy and obvious conclusion to come to, it felt fake... like that's what someone wanted... Fuck being a pawn - because if I am right, then this literally is chess... with two sides, they are just bidding for "pieces" (our support) right now to set up the board... and the centrists/moderates/common sense people are the targets. That's why people are being extremised in both directions, without any slowing... and why they make the world shitty and conspiracies obvious on purpose... to fuel the radicalization - so that WE will over throw the old world order and institute THEIRS, which ever side wins. Techno globalist dystopia, or religious fascist isolationist dystopia - they always give us two choices and no more.

THIS was awesome with a cherry on top! I've been trolling this site for a while hoping to find THIS common sense reasoning from more users. All the high level accounts and based posting senior members are on one part of that damn chess-board regurgitating the same partitioned vitriol for their side.

You are more than a hundred percent on point! I've been noticing it for too long as well. Fuck their extremism! These two sides can cancel each other out while the unwilling participants sit back, and eat popcorn! I'm not helping out one bit in their stupid plots, I'll fight a war on both their dumb-asses instead of helping either one succeed. Thanks again!

[–]Vigte[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I agree that there's definitely controlled opposition (everywhere) working to stop people seeing the duality of the control system (and of its end goals) and it comes from both sides, working together. Where they differ is "in the field" so to speak, the operatives doing the missions, the politicians passing the policies - and I swear both sides are self-sabotaging in a race to the bottom currently.

I still think most users are people honestly seeking the truth though and they just need a proper explanation of this, with good evidence.

I've been spamming videos and links related to this, but without a wall of text to explain it, I've just been kicking at thin air. So hopefully some more people will read this and maybe they'll see something related, post it and we can begin to build a better argument against all this partisanship - but I seriously wonder if it's not "too late" for a lot of the hardcore left/right people.

The best that could be hoped for is educating the leftists more on the "secret right" and having them tear it down with protest and exposition - while simultaneously exposing the "secret left" (ie: being a regular conspiracy theorist) to more "right wingers" - ie: Q, but telling the truth, lol.

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Where they differ is "in the field" so to speak, the operatives doing the missions, the politicians passing the policies - and I swear both sides are self-sabotaging in a race to the bottom.

While dragging the human race down along with it lol. Or attempting to.

I've been spamming videos and links related to this, but without a wall of text to explain it, I've just been kicking at thin air. So hopefully some more people will read this and maybe they'll see something related, post it and we can begin to build a better argument against all this partisanship- but I seriously wonder if it's not "too late" for a lot of the hardcore left/right people.

Those that are truly moderate or bipartisan already possess this understanding, even without this wall of text. I sorta knew this stuff before reading in other ways and in other words because I sought my own explanations as well. The best thing this post did was confirm it and if I wasn't independent in that respect; this post may not have triggered much.

but I seriously wonder if it's not "too late" for a lot of the hardcore left/right people.

Yeah it is, plus you are more likely to encounter agents that work for one of the sides on the field. You'll spot them through their unreasonable contempt for anything different other than the core message of their side and will attack vehemently if you try to say different. Plus they have goals they need to achieve physically so you could become a target if you raise too much dust. The better tactic in my opinion, is containment of either side through internal resistance while addressing both. So as long as you don't ally too strongly with either side and let nature run its course; these extremes will have to meld into the middle inevitably. Its the best course of action that individuals can take against the heavy handed subversion at play.

Other than that, time will have to let things play out in uncertainty because the die is already cast!

[–]Vigte[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Speechless.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

[deleted] accidentally outed himself yesterday as a $h!//, bro.

BUSTED ;-)

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

Actually you are proving yourself to be a shill with nothing more than your accusations.

But how exactly am I a shill? because I like tearing down hive bubbles? Because you're seen me speak out against the alt-right posters which is the prominent "hip" new thing that is coming around? Does it offend you? Or is it all the accounts that I am recycling through?

Either way, all you prove are the limitations of your own mind to piece things together that seemingly synchronize. Lets have this debate to settle it once and for all. I for one, now think that you are the shill...

[–]Zahn 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

Can you please simplify what your saying? It's like you're trying to sound smart and have some ok ideas, but they're all over the place. Sort of how someone whose high would talk.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

His intent is to create confusion.

This is his other account. He made reference to me above.

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His intent is to create confusion.

Wrong, my intention is to avoid weirdos like you from now on. Nice talking to ya, Hive agent.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

my intention is to avoid weirdos like you from now on.

Really?

Then why did you include my name in the second sentence of your first comment paragraph?

Edit: Also, [deleted] is an amateur forum slider. See above.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Then why did you include my name in the second sentence of your first comment paragraph?

The same reason, I comment again; to prove that you are as part of the hive-mind, attempting to recruit and train agents with dubious tactics. And if someone isn't part of your group then you accuse them of wrong-doing because their behavioral patterns don't match thy convenience. Here was the thread in question with some quasi attempts.

I don't always bold my sentences, or put together concise phrases including funky characters and emotional smiles ;) with half-baked $h!// accusations like you. But it certainly doesn't make me what you accuse because I choose to resist information control and poke holes at the bubble. If you want to accuse me of being an "amateur forum slider" then I would accuse you of being a professional hive agent attempting to recruit. Simple as that. Now have a good day!

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

But it certainly doesn't make me what you accuse

Really??? Then why do you continue to delete your account(s)?
I've already challenged you to prove you aren't by posting some credible 9/11 truth, or something similar that a shill wouldn't/couldn't post. :-)

Either way, I'm bored of your transparent shill nonsense.

At least you didn't continue with your trademark copy-text forum slide.

To the casual reader, I'm talking to a homunculus-bot-boy who goes by: /u/issues7, /u/issues11, /u/issuesfill-in-the-numeral(2-11), and /u/[deleted] (and no doubt many more).

Peace and love! ;-)

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I am speaking with Tom. Who the hell are you?

And if there is a need to simplify or re-type my responses then it would not be a problem. But what is with the accusation of being a shill? On what basis? In so far as I can tell, you guys are the hive mind cluster that is doomed in its making. History has proven this with fascism already! All you guys have is your zeal to "want" to succeed against all odds in favor of centralized power based on your biased heuristics pertaining to culture.

Well, congrats that makes you guys the shills. Political wanna-be's! and lacking individuality. And you wanna throw that back at me? Edit: You better go eat some more birthday cakes first because you have slim chance! Also I do apologize for being all over the place, but if all that is needed is further clarity then I don't have any issues providing it; However, accusations are not necessary and they can be thrown right back against the accuser.

[–]Zahn 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Oh, you're that guy which was a deleted user awhile ago. I remember you. Real life rhetoric and regurgitating info for a college writing assignment are two entirely different things. For rhetoric you have to be smart and organized. For writing homework, you just have to sound smart. Neither of which you're doing very well. Maybe you got some affirmative action points on your homework, but you must empirically make sense when trying to sway people in the real world with your premise/arguments. Just because you feel like you're correct doesn't logically mean that you are.

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Oh, you're that guy which was a deleted user awhile ago. I remember you. Real life rhetoric and regurgitating info for a college writing assignment are two entirely different things. For rhetoric you have to be smart and organized. For writing homework, you just have to sound smart. Neither of which you're doing very well. Maybe you got some affirmative action points on your homework, but you must empirically make sense when trying to sway people in the real world with your premise/arguments. Just because you feel like you're correct doesn't logically mean that you are.

And none of those things match up to what I am being accused of. "Shill" for the purpose of this conversation, likewise; just because you think you're correct doesn't meant that you are. An error on your part.

Edit: Observing more of the hive mind like behavior. Speaking with one user brings out another to defend against a false accuser? A number of users may co-opt for each other in an attempt to represent one side of the debate and attempt disruption/subversion. Shills...

[–]Zahn 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Nah, I'm just engaging with people using sophistry and you hit the check marks. I also did not take any real stance or premise.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Well, wouldn't you know it? I am doing the same thing and a number of users including you, checks out!

Edit: Can't wait till I'm done though and can delete my account again. You guys are just pure "vomit". Accuse someone of what you are guilty of! bleh Operate in a hive-mind to bolster group minded thinking! yuck Gain seniority and misuse resources! RALPH Good luck with your doom in the making!