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[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

I wonder if he's always been compromised, or if he sold out in 2011. Prior to then he talked about Israel and Zionism and seemed a lot more rational. Probably just was building his base so he'd have people to trick.

[–]Vigte[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

95% convinced at this point that he's ALWAYS been involved (knowingly or unknowingly) via his more right-wing oriented history: JBS, his Endgame film guests (all CNP, including chairman of the organization), the guests he has on now..., the guests he used to have on, but doesn't anymore - all the stories about his father and how long his family's been in America, etc.

The only thing he's ever said that stuck with me - especially since he "walked it back" - but, naturally I can't find the clip. It must be from when I was still listening to him, which was before 2012. It was of him saying "Around 2000 there was a split, between the older, more religious, satanic elements of the NWO and the upcoming, younger, transhumanist/globalist arm".

The quote accurately describes the partisanship of the NWO that I keep talking about "secret right" vs "secret left" - one ideology (illuminism, etc), two visions of what the "end goal" looks like (atheo-communist globalist left vs judeo-christian theocratic fascism). So they'll argue over power and victory, but never expose the other side, that's not how a "gentleman's war" works.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Great stuff man, thanks, I'll check it out.

95% convinced at this point that he's ALWAYS been involved (knowingly or unknowingly)

It looks like you're right. Even in his earliest videos like the DMV one, he's way more of a provocateur than a truth seeker or legit protester.

[–]Vigte[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

more of a provocateur than a truth seeker or legit protester

And that's ultimately what the clip of him talking to "Alexander Dugin" was for.

The man formulated something called "The fourth political theory" - it's essentially the right-wing ethnonationalist playbook, but with a Russian supremacist focus. It uses "chaos" to disguise itself AND project its agenda. For example, Russian accounts set up facebook groups to start Black Lives Matter marches in the same place/time as it set up white nationalist rallies.

I know it sounds a bit weird, but essentially the play (and the reason Ukraine is important) is because it will be used by the left to open Russia up and end this "last stand for europeans" and Russia/Dugin as the "saviours" (thus the russian supremecy ideas) - or it will be used to close Russia off and begin this movement.

In the end, it's what Yuri Bezmenov was talking about...

Something to consider

He later deleted the tweet

More here

The right is correct about the left.

The left is correct about the right.

That's how they keep this all going.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Daamn, somehow we went from Alex Jones to the heart of geopolitics. I will be digging in.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

atheo-communist globalist left vs judeo-christian theocratic fascism

There is an issue though, sticking to a side without flexibility or adaptation is perilious to the end. In real circumstances, the environment is dynamic and tense therefore, one has to be adaptable without rigidity to survive the storms.

In so far as history, judeo-christian theocratic fascism has been dominant but has failed to materialize its true end goal and securing happiness in an NWO fashion. Atheo-communist globalist left has led to avarice and excessive consumption- so unfortunately the solution will have to be somewhere in the refined middle without the trappings of either; in a completely different label. The upcoming extinction events and global changes will ensure this alteration for the upcoming epoch. I gather the two factions may reconcile, but the public is in real danger because they have always been treated as the farm.

[–]Vigte[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

sticking to a side without flexibility or adaptation is perilious to the end.

I agree - and that's almost what happened. If you look back, the "divine right to rule" crowd and (what I call) "orderly theocrats" ran the show. That is until the enlightenment and french/american masonic revolutions neutered that, by changing how the average person perceives life and politics, religion, etc. You didn't even see a real response from the theocrats for almost a hundred years after the revolutions - until the "right-wing" elements began to play at the same game.

I explain more here, but it's almost a half hour long and I am a shit video editor - forgive me

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Ohh god! the video is too long to watch, but I'll take your typed description into consideration.

[–]Vigte[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

Yeah - it's brutal, I regret making it kind of haha, but the ending would blow anyone away who watches the whole thing... ;)

Edit: Would it be a stretch to say I discovered what they will fake, to rule us - found the holy grail and found proto-Rothschilds all in one video? No, it wouldn't be a stretch (a theory, but not a stretch), but no one will ever knowwwww.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Well just type it all out instead of making a huge video file. Condense content into simple statements for other people to consider quickly. Like 10 years ago people had more time for it, but these days that behavior is superfluous.

[–]Vigte[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I actually started doing that after I posted that reply, I'll make a new post with some provocative title here later lol.

It's unfortunate - long form; things like Bill Cooper or documentary films are fun and contain so much information it's crazy, but they were designed for a time where you would only get one info dump a week or something, so they made it count. Now, with the access to clips, info etc from around the world - plus the shortening attention span etc, it's difficult and like you said, superfluous. Instead of one big infodump in a while - you get thousands of little ones throughout the day... changing times.

Oh well, no biggie - hard part is making big -> small, it's easy to ramble on and make something small -> big.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Oh well, no biggie - hard part is making big -> small, it's easy to ramble on and make something small -> big.

Exactly! It really depends on the original viewer or processor of the information. Just a lengthy and meaty paragraph typed from understanding is enough to condense copious information. And with some revision, you can even hyperlink sources and it flows better together.

This sort of secondary relay of information is a lot better than spreading link videos through forums as was done in the past. It can also account for better teaching and writing abilities by the original poster. Worthy of more respect, and you deserve it for typing out as much you did! Cheers!

[–]Vigte[S] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you kind stranger, for inspiring me to not just sit around and be lazy both physically and intellectually.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I just wanna cut in and say that's just one person's opinion - I personally am enjoying your video right now and think your editing is great! :) There are people like me who like long videos and podcasts to listen to in the background (or just watch), or enjoy lengthy conversations, you know. Just because you're saying a lot, doesn't mean you're repeating yourself or being "superfluous".

I appreciate the time you put into this. Thank you for sharing.

Edit: Just finished.. I think it was a great video with great editing.. Everything made sense and lead up to the ending.. I enjoyed it, thank you for sharing. Problem?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Problem?

I mean, when you got that Corona virus and have little time left. You may not want to watch a whole video presentation but instead just prefer to read quick. You know, thinking about all the people out there, other than that; No problem!.

Keep doing you!

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Lol "The Problem" wasn't for you, none of these comments were for you, it was something /u/Vigte said sarcastically at the end of their video and I was making a joke to them about that..

You know, if you had even skipped to the end of the video, you'd have known that!

[–]Vigte[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Interestingly, just over 1 hour and 40 minutes into Alex Jones' 2007 film Endgame, he features a clip of Phyllis Schlafly giving a speech at a CNP meeting, standing right behind a very large "Council for National Policy" sign. That makes his claim three years later that he pretty much knew nothing about the CNP - while at the same time dismissing and marginalizing it - only more suspect.

From here

Some of Alex Jones guests from the John Birch Society: John McManus (president John Birch Society), Phyllis Schlafly, G. Edward Griffin, Stanley Monteith, William Jasper, Dr. Michael Coffman (also in Jones' Endgame movie), Gina Parker Ford (in Endgame), Joel Skousen (son of Cleon Skousen, also of the ASC), Jerome Corsi (close to JBS leadership and a propagandist against Kerry and Obama who pushed for war with Iran), Paul Craig Roberts, Ron Paul (about the only dovish but fervant JBS backer). Also: James Tucker (until his death Jones' BB expert). Other guests: Ted Gunderson of the Liberty Lobby and John De Camp (cooperated in apparently limiting the fall-out of the Franklin child abuse scandal and in Oklahoma).

[–]FollowTheMoney 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Am I the only one that has never felt right with this man...? Controlled opposition through and through if you ask me. Makes money off crack supplements and inciting fear. 80% truth 20% disinfo. The more I see that people like him exist, Sam Tripoli, Eddie Bravo et al I can't help but think the conspiracy of the conspiracy is to get enough people thinking about this stuff so we all become willing participants thinking about these things but don't get answers. More divisors for us to squabble over. Let these personalities get big, let the fox get too close to the sheep pen, allow the sheep to stir and worry then deem the fox a "national security threat." Remove their platform, thus setting a precedent for similar people in the future. Willing or unwilling I really don't know but it's classic Problem, Reaction, Solution...

[–]Vigte[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I honestly think that all of the conspiracies we "catch" - are allowed to be seen.

They make the world shit on purpose and expose expendable elements of their operation (or of the "other" side - as per my partisan "illuminati" theory) - so that WE the people overthrow the old world order for them - and they can offer "their solution". Like you said, problem, reaction, solution.

For the longest time I thought "they" were in complete agreement over what solution to offer - but the likelihood is that they aren't...

[–]FollowTheMoney 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's rather fucked how in our face the corruption is. Mr Robot was a fucking trip. One of the few series that blatantly discussed some of these themes. I think it could be a drip to slowly push the universal consciousness towards what you are discussing. Part of me has a feeling their infighting will just destroy any plan and the exposure will just happen. I'd rather believe in that and hopefully I "hop into/experience" that thread of existence (Man in the High Castle style lol). Helplessness over a decade of researching is not comforting, I get why peers didn't want to address it. Maybe what you think, you experience. I don't know what's worse, turning a blind eye and living blissful or continue researching only to find out after life that I created the reality for those characters.

[–]Vigte[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Mr Robot was brilliant - it's too bad they wussed out on the ending. I have a feeling they had one more season planned, where the (final event) wasn't a fake out... I felt so let down.

That's like the fifth time someone has brought up Man in the High Castle to me in a few days, I guess I'll have to check it out now... worth it?

As for knowledge... there's an old saying:

And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is a chasing after wind. For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. (link included just in case your gamer)

Real quote is from the Bible

[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Literally a snake oil salesman, literally a small hat by marriage