The black/white logical fallacy as propaganda tool

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Eh, nope. You speak of apathy yet you spout "that's just the way the world is." When IT IS NOT.

It's the way the world HAS BEEN CORRUPTED TO BECOME. Huge difference. It doesn't have to be this way, and accepting that is "just is" is apathy, and it is surrendering your personal will to that corruption. It remains true: for evil to triumph, good men need only do nothing. You can't do anything to improve the state of things if you accept the status quo. Are you a good man or are you part of the problem?

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

HAS BEEN CORRUPTED TO BECOME.

Prove it. Prove that it hasn't always been this way. Some evidence that humankind haven't been bashing each other over the heads with rocks for nonsensical reasons ever since our inception. The mystical garden of Eden you claim to desire never existed. The apple wasn't bitten into. It was born in our stomachs.

for evil to triumph, good men

Crusaders thought they were good men. The people flying those planes into buildings thought they were good men. If good and evil is the side you're on, then what side were we in paradise? I hate to sound pedantically nihilistic, but living in a fantasy won't create a better future.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

The proof is easily attainable: remove ANY AND ALL beliefs from your mind and you will see that man himself is pure and good. It is the thoughts, the ideas, and mostly THE BELIEFS that allow, condone, justify, motivate and glorify behavior that goes fully counter nature.

I know, you want a proof you can perceive in your current, corrupted and infected state of mind. Well you can't. Does it exist? Yes, it does. Anyone with a mental state like this knows and understands this fact. It is up to the individual to decide whether he will be one of the savages or a fully grown Übermensch.

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

remove ANY AND ALL beliefs from your mind

Excuse me. Um, what? Don't think too hard about it? That's your answer?

in your current, corrupted and infected state of mind.

A polite: "Fuck you." is in order.

you want a proof

Yep.

Well you can't.

Okay... so there's no proof,

Does it exist? Yes,

but it exists. But there's no proof.

Anyone with a mental state like this

Like... what? A constant state of denial and refusal to observe surroundings?

this fact.

A fact implies proof.

savages or a fully grown Übermensch.

Funny you should mention Übermensch. An ideal based off choosing one system of morality over another while oblivious to the irony of calling those with a different morality a savage when you're at the same time describing yourself as one.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

You started by failing at understanding the simple sentence "remove any and all beliefs from your mind". From there, I won't subject my mind to discussing things with a mental earthworm.

[–]AnarchySpeach 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Do you understand how high you sound?

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

From there, I won't subject my mind to discussing things with a mental earthworm.

But you will write them a reply, just to let them know how little you think of them, as if their opinion matters.

Hmmm.

I'm sure if /u/JasonThePervert was here he'd have something to say about power relationships in BDSM

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is based on YOUR assumption that the motivation for my actions is how I am perceived by others. It is incorrect. I wrote a reply to him in order to explain why I am not replying to him anymore. No more, no less. When I leave a conversation, I make it known that I do so. I respect myself enough to be polite even to morons. I am not stating he is of that category, either. I'm just giving an example.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Whatever, dude. I can see that ego and shadow rule you.

You replied to insult him. end of.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, I get that. You can see these things through the lens of YOUR OWN PRECONCEPTIONS.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

owning your shit is a sign of maturity.