Confirmed: Department of Defense Paid Far-Left Newsguard $749,387 to Continue to Censor The Gateway Pundit and Conservative Media. Today we found out the United States Department of Defense was using taxpayer dollars to censor conservatives and independent media online.

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[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Another fabrication of a story from chipit. No surprise he fell for a fake story again.

First of all, newsguard aren't censoring anyone. They're not in the business of censoring. If I paid them a billion dollars to censor chipit, there's nothing they could actually do with the money, because they don't provide a platform for speech on which any censorship could occur.

So what do they do? They rate outlets according to which tell the truth, and which are outright liars, like gatewaypundit. They provide a score which you can totally ignore if you wish. Actually you could start your own version which scores gatewaypundit really high and the MSM really low.

Now coming to the DOD contract.

https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_FA864921P1569_9700_-NONE-_-NONE-

700 grand. Pretty meagre.

What is the contract for? MISINFORMATION FINGERPRINTS

Why does the dod pay someone for that? Is it related to America's defense against it's external enemies? Let's take a look at some recent newsguard articles and see if it sounds related to defending against Americas external adversaries.

https://www.newsguardtech.com/newsguard-report-tiktok-false-ukraine-content/

https://www.newsguardtech.com/special-reports/russian-disinformation-programmatic-advertising/

https://www.newsguardtech.com/misinformation-monitor/february-2023/

All stories about how America's adversaries weaponise and spread fake information.

Exactly something which I, a US taxpayer, want the government to be better at.

I live in Texas.

Here's a time the government failed us here.

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/11/01/russian-facebook-page-organized-protest-texas-different-russian-page-l/

So I support this contract with newsguard and support the DOD upskilling in this area. For the protection of my neighbors and fellow Texans.

[–]chadwickofwv 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It takes a leftist to be as blind to reality as you.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Explain yourself. What am I missing here? I thought we were supposed to be above the right/left divide around here?

America's adversaries sent to groups to competing protests at the same time and place in Houston.

They did this by paying social media to promote their misinformation. It's all in the link I shared.

So how do I, as a Texan, ensure my government is protecting us against this new kind of threat?

Surely part of the answer involves the DOD paying researchers in the field.

Why does left/right politics have to come into it at all?

What's your suggestion? How does my government prevent our adversaries from attacking America through the information space, without invoking the kind of story linked here?

[–]DirewolfGhost 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This technique is known as a forum slide.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He accused me of having been blind to reality.

Will you please help me do better?

Will you please help me formulate a response which does not "forum slide".

Let's say someone accused you of having been blind to reality. Because you're someone who can recognise a "forum slide", you never invoke the technique in your own posts. So, how would you respond to the accusation, without forum sliding? Please help me do better.

I want to hear Chadwick's opinion about how the DOD should behave differently to reality. But I don't want to forum slide. Could you re-write my post, so that I don't do any bad faith techniques?

Here I'll be Chadwick, and you be me. You have to respond better than I did, without doing a forum slide.

I, as Chadwick, say this to you:

It takes a leftist to be as blind to reality as you.

[–]SoCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It appears they deem everything dirty misinformation in need of the platform + author being slandered and their advertisers bullied into canceling....which stinks of un-democratic fascism.

....except the obviously dishonest, or at least massively biased spin-take, of the Ukraine-Russo war, which the EU/US media seems mandated to religiously propagandized daily.

Their complaint is about what is a technically valid point of view, not disinformation.

It seems NewsGaurdTech is nothing but a the hunting and target collection arm of a massive, dangers, and organized censorship fascio-industrial complex. And here we are finding the military attack dogs are receiving their targets from them...

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It appears they deem everything dirty misinformation in need of the platform + author being slandered and their advertisers bullied into canceling....which stinks of un-democratic fascism.

Where did you see them doing that?

Go ahead and link to where it "appears" that's happening.

Because I accuse you of having completely invented this section. 100% pulled out your ass.

You can read their website to see what they do. Go ahead and show me a single instance of what you described here.

Why did you make it up? Why did you just say it, completely invented? It's like you live in a dream fugue state. That's totally unreliable.

Their complaint is about what is a technically valid point of view, not disinformation.

Another absolute lie. I dropped three links from their website which are reports into state-sponsored misinfo. Not "technically valid points of view". Another creation of your dream fugue state. Pulled out of nowhere, but you said it for no other reason than it just felt right at the time.

It seems NewsGaurdTech is nothing but a the hunting and target collection arm of a massive, dangers, and organized censorship fascio-industrial complex. And here we are finding the military attack dogs are receiving their targets from them...

Where does it "seem" that way? Link to it.

Why do you allow yourself to just conjure a make-believe reality out of thin air, on demand? Doesn't your internal experience of the on-demand-worldbuilding feel as unreliable as it appears in text? Is this a mental illness? Shouldn't you declare upfront, when typing out an alleged statement about the shared reality, "hey by the way I have a mental illness that makes it seem like I know what I'm talking about, but really, I just conjure facts to fit my invented reality at will, on demand, I can create a series of imagined facts to fit any gap in my retardedly tiny knowledge base"

[–]SoCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I looked at your links with examples of NewsGuardTech declaring publications to be misinformation, simply because they disagree with the perspective, not that they had technically incorrect information.

You can see how this is a perceptive below is not factually incorrect, but simply a common perspective they don't like.

https://www.newsguardtech.com/misinformation-monitor/february-2023/

“We hear that we started the war in Donbass, Ukraine—No.” Russian President Vladimir Putin says grimly to the camera, flanked by the colors of the Russian flag. “It was unleashed by the collective West, which organized and supported the unconstitutional armed coup in Ukraine in 2014, and then encouraged and justified genocide on the people of Donbass.”

This clip — in which Putin advances blatant misinformation about the origins of the war that he, in fact, started [...]

One can show it's feasibility though the extensive involvement, intelligence attention, creepy foreign mercenaries that showed up, and US people on the ground in Ukraine about the time the well liked leader, who had just refused our trade deal for the 2nd option, was violently removed from office in a bloody and long lasting urban battle unlike any protest. Then the UK and US, organized, ran, and paid for the referendum voting, even "vetting" all the candidates. It was less believable than Russia's recent Eastern Ukrainian referendum vote, which our lapdogs immediately called fraudulent, without evidence. Then add to that, the fact that the Ukrainian army has endlessly bombed their own people in the Donbass region ever since, for a decade, then Putin went to Geneva making an official world grievance using our world court system, about his perception of that killing of tens to hundreds of thousands of Russian-Heritage Ukrainians per yer, being systematic genocide. There was even a time that this was someone a stated goal, along with banning opposing political parties (from the East, like Donbass) from elections, albeit under the guise of wiping out leftover communism, with their extremely questionable and brutal de-comuniziation efforts, which, despite the anti-democratic criticisms, were publicly supported and encouraged by the US and EU...just like other very questionable to support atrocities in Ukraine, like cutting off water supply to civilians, which the US publicly supported.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh, look, you happen to believe a bunch of misinformation and so feel personally targeted. I get it. It's making you feel personally affected, because you're a believer in what they correctly label as weaponised fake information.

That makes sense to me.

In which case, not only are you mentally ill as we already established, you're also incredibly gullible. What a powerful combination.

You can see how this is a perceptive below is not factually incorrect, but simply a common perspective they don't like.

It's only common amongst gullible people like you who believed the fake propaganda narratives. Not amongst normal people.

Let's go through some of the propaganda lies which you just tried to repeat to me

creepy foreign mercenaries that showed up,

I happen to know that this is about a debunked conspiracy about Berkut, but still, I accuse you of lying here so please cite a source.

US people on the ground in Ukraine

Show me any evidence that America had an unusually high amount of people on the ground in Ukraine during maidan, because I accuse you of totally fabricating this

well liked leader

Show me any evidence that Yanukovic was well liked in 2014 because this is a propaganda lie.

Then the UK and US, organized, ran, and paid for the referendum voting, even "vetting" all the candidates.

This is a lie. I would like for you to cite evidence for this. I believe you're referring to a debunked conspiracy theory made from a hacked and edited phone call, which doesn't actually say anything approaching what you described here.

without evidence

That's a lie, but one we can easily fix.

Here's some evidence.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1573416923957633025

Now that you know that "without evidence" is a lie, you must never again knowingly repeat the lie that it's "without evidence" or else you'll be telling a deliberate lie.

I am barely even halfway into your false screed and keep running into propaganda lies.

I see now why you felt so triggered by newsguard. It's because you're a gullible tool of adversarial propagandists, repeating their weaponised justification for genocide like a squawking parrot.

What a pathetic, gullible, mentally ill brain god has suffered you to live with. I hope the people in your life don't realise the extent of your febrile pliability, and take advantage of you. I don't know how to fix you. Cult deprogramming, or perhaps getting in a car crash to reform your brain back into the usual shape. Either way I suggest not wearing seatbelts for a while

[–]SoCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Please make a better effort than long winded empty personal insults. You are Reddit-ing up the place.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So aren't you going to link to any proof for the claims which you made, which I am directly accusing you of lying about?

Or do you agree that you made it all up. All the fake propaganda lies you wrote. It's all invented. So cite your sources for the claims which I identified as fake .

Over and over in this thread you created a lie and then ignored me asking for evidence. It's only natural that I insult you

[–]DirewolfGhost 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This technique is known as a gish gallop.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, sorry did I overwhelm you.

Perhaps it would be easier for you if, instead of galloping, I just focus on one single point. Then you don't have to work your brain too hard. One single point, and I can hardly be accused of galloping.

My one point will be the word "censor". This story, which chipit linked, is fake because it accuses them of censorship. They are not in the business of providing a platform for speech. It's wrong to accuse them of censorship because they do not control access to anyone else's speech.

On the contrary, rather then censorship, they offer an optional service whereby interested parties can visit their domains for supplementary info and ratings of publications. You could spend your entire life interacting with some internet publisher and never come into contact with the newsguard score for the outlet. It's simply not censorship according to any definition. But if, on the other hand, chipit were to demand that newsguard quit using their freedom of speech to rate outlets, then chipit would be guilty of censorship. Likewise, gatewaypundit decrying newsguard's exercise of speech, is equally censorious to newsguard's output.

Isn't that so? What's different between newsguard writing bad things about gatewaypundit, and gatewaypundit writing bad things about newsguard? Aren't both acts equally censorious?

There, now we have rested your tired little brain by only examining a single thing wrong with this op post. I trust I remained non-gallopy and you weren't too stressed or triggered from reading that.

[–]MagicMike 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Satan is as Satan does.