Ye’s Suspension from Twitter Suggests Elon Musk’s Free Speech Commitment is a Sham

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[–]EternalSunset 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I and others warned you guys that Musk is a conman who's in bed with the deep state and that he wasn't going to give anyone free speech, yet people keep cheerleading for him because "muh democrats bad so other side gud". Just look at the two government bots immediately jumping to defend his censorship right here and think twice if you still want to be supporting him.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Elon is just an average person with average opinions.

[–]Alphix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've been saying that too...

[–]EternalSunset 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Based 🤝

[–]Feldheld 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Free speech isnt absolute. No decent person will allow antisemite feces to spread their bile. Everybody who thinks free speech is absolute will regret it because this human scum will infest every forum and make it uninhabitable that doesnt take precautions.

[–]Drewski[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'd rather have the ability to block that user myself, rather than have the platform decide for me. Too much is lumped into "antisemitism" including legitimate criticism of Israel.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The only legitimate criticism I can think of Israel is letting trannies in the military without legalizing Gay marriages. Not one of these so-called “critics“ focuses on that inconsistency in Israeli law. Instead, they would rather just throw the baby out with the bathwater.

[–]online_username 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nonsense. I have no problem being on a forum in which whites are criticized and have mean words said about them. I spent years on reddit. Who the fuck cares. If someone is explicitly making direct threats of violence that's another matter, but beyond that no one should be above criticism, least of all a group that wields so much hidden power and actively uses that power to advance their interests and attack perceived enemies.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

Also Ron Paul's attempt to overthrow Dominica suggests his commitment to nonintervention is a sham

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

no true Scotsman

[–]Schwarzenigga 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

yep - among other ways that he plays politics. He's used every political trick in the book, so to speak, though he's been McConnell's mini-me all along, rasing $26 million in the process.

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

That's Rand. It was the father, Ron, namesake of the OP link, who tried to overthrow Dominica with the KKK and white nationalists to install a banana republic.

https://newsone.com/1805245/ron-paul-was-implicated-in-attempted-white-supremacist-island-invasion/

Ron Paul Was Implicated In Failed White Supremacist Island Invasion

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Red_Dog

Operation Red Dog

Weird how it never came up every time he was interviewed by Alex Jones or the Birchers to talk about his great noninterventionism

[–]EternalSunset 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (19 children)

This conversation be like.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Derailing is the tactic of the day

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

XD

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

It's a post from Ron Paul calling Musk's principles a sham because he didn't reinstate a Nazi.

In reply, is a post from me calling Ron Paul's principles a sham because he once tried to overthrow a government to install Nazis into power. No wonder he's active today in defending another Nazi. I don't think it's irrelevant of me to bring it up but you're free to think that

[–]EternalSunset 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (15 children)

Says the dude that shills for sending heavy weapons and billions of dollars to actual nazis in Ukraine.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Yeah I support Ukraine even though a national guard unit's origins are iffy. Because the Nazis on the other side, russia's side, like Marine Le Pen, alternative fur Deutschland, Austrian freedom party, Aaron banks, geert wilders, la Liga - these people are all a lot more scary to me than the iffy origins of a national guard regiment.

Did that feel like an on-topic relevant response when you wrote it?

If you were really worried about Nazis wouldn't you be more concerned about Ron Paul and operation red dog?

Doesn't the fact that you blew straight past it imply that you actually aren't all that bothered about nazism?

[–]EternalSunset 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Because the Nazis on the other side, russia's side, like Marine Le Pen, alternative fur Deutschland, Austrian freedom party, Aaron banks, geert wilders, la Liga - these people are all a lot more scary to me than the iffy origins of a national guard regiment.

"Eurosceptic right wing scary, literally nazis"

Meanwhile you support this.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"that one national guard regiment's origins are scary"

But the fascists with actual power are not.

Got it

Edit - I can see you are firmly opposed to Nazism in a Ukrainian national guard regiment. I trust you'll be intellectually consistent and condemn Kanye and Ron Paul too?

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Kanye West and Clarence Thomas are why the use of the word ”nigger” is a justifiable response to antisemitism and homophobia.

[–]JewsAreOfColor 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Kanye West and Clarence Thomas are why the use of the word ”nigger” is a justifiable response to antisemitism and homophobia.

Speaking of homophobia, Ukraine is one of the most homophobic countries in Europe. You are harming homosexuals by supporting this regime.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Does "iffy origins" include wearing nazi symbols on your Ukrainian uniform to this very day? It should.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

To this day? I doubt it. If you're referring to proto-slavic perun symbols that the Germans co-opted - then, no, that's not nazi.

Let's see.

A scary symbol

Versus a proven white supremacist government overthrow of Dominica, plus the ruzzia's proven financing of political extremism.

Who is the scariest.

Is it the spooky item of clothing?

Edit - I can see you are firmly opposed to Nazism in a Ukrainian national guard regiment. I trust you'll be intellectually consistent and condemn Kanye and Ron Paul too?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

people that shill for western terrorism are the scariest and the most evil

[–]Schwarzenigga 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Opps - I read 'Rand' - but yeah I'd argue they're similar folks, him and dad, making themselved look like outsiders, while working for the the morally corrupt authoritarian frauds.

[–]Drewski[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Weird how it never came up every time he was interviewed by Alex Jones or the Birchers to talk about his great noninterventionism

Probably because if hosts focused on every ridiculous allegation against their guests there'd be nothing else to talk about.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why did you think it ridiculous. People did hard time in prison for the Op - it's not made up. It would have been in the public interest for a US senator to have the question put to him

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

dank he's raised a ton this year. YePaul2024!

[–]Schwarzenigga 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'd love to see that. (The week before the election, the Jewish lobby would release a deepfake sex tape of those two in an orgy with trans furries and horny horses at a secluded Kentucky campsite, amidst a ring of large satanic sculptures and a big camp fire.)

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Rand is pretty dreamy and awesome. He does free eye surgeries for poor kids.

[–]Alphix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why bother answering to the black nigga though. We all know he always argues in bad faith.

[–]Drewski[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

archive.today mirror

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Elon's argument was that Nazi's are an actual violent group so posting a swastika to promote Nazism was promoting violence.

However he also said context mattered so posting a swastika to make a point about history would not be banned.

[–]Drewski[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Seems like a slippery slope to me. Any group can arbitrarily be labeled "violent"; The Proud Boys, BLM, ANTIFA, heck I'd even argue the US Military.

[–]UncleWillard56 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

By suspending him, Musk is only giving him credibility. Let him say what he wants, I'm sure there are plenty of people who can clap back and tell him he's full of shit. Now he's a martyr to some.