Why Kanye West is right. People are awfully afraid to criticize a group that supposedly wields no political power. They called him anti-semitic, but they didn’t call him a liar. Youtube censored the original video, so make sure to share this around so it gets more views.

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[–]proc0 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

The main question nobody asks, and I haven't heard Ye or any of his interviewers discuss: what exactly does the jewish part have to do with any of it? How is that responsible in any way for the bad behavior? I suspect Ye has not thought about this because it would require sophisticated arguments having to do with details of the faith and behavioral effects of that.

However, Ye is definitely making a point that is going above the head of almost everyone I have seen interview him. He wants to point out a double standard that seems to exist only for jewish people in certain industries, who dodge responsibility via censorship that is justified on historical grounds. It seems everyone is proving his point.

Personally, this discussion is similar to the conversation about muslims and terrorism. Pointing out how they're related is triggering for a lot of people because it implies anyone who is muslim is also a terrorist. The conversation is derailed because it's hard to criticize an ancient religion effectively. Even so, there probably is a link between religious beliefs and the actions of the believers. Truly believing that your book is the ultimate source of answers will probably affect your perspective, values and therefore your actions. Making it clear why the religious identity is part of the problem is also a way to steer away from any talk about lineage.

[–]Chipit[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Kanye says "the Jews are shutting down everyone who disagrees with their agenda" gets him shut down by organizations substantially owned and/or operated by Jews, like, what--you think he's gonna conclude "oh, I must be mistaken?"

Besides, Jewishness isn't a religion. It's an ethnicity. You're Jewish if your mother is Jewish. Plenty of atheist Jews out there who never attend religious services.

Malcolm X on Jews: https://files.catbox.moe/e23iib.webm

[–]proc0 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah that's the irony. That's why I think it's probably not a typical conspiracy, since then surely they would see the obvious. Instead it's decentralized decisions that I guess happen consistently anyway. It may have to do with the faith, or culture, or a combination of many things, just like muslims and terrorism. The tricky part is that this time is not terrorism but censorship and control, and that is a harder link to find.

[–]Chipit[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Choose any or some from this mix of the following ideas:

  • Jews represented a distinct people with their own interests and identity
  • individual Jews on average had greater allegiance to the Jewish people than to their host population
  • Jews as a group were adept at securing power financially, in the arts, and in the media
  • and finally that Jews would use the power they attained to further their own interests at the expense of the interests of the host population whenever those were in conflict.

[–]proc0 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

1) I guess is complicated. Saying they're a race is like saying Latinos are a race, which is not really true because they're both a mix of many races. I would say it's about culture and also their religion, which includes being a nation of people regardless of where they're born.

2) is true for all groups of people. There are always in-group preferences. The question is whether there is a double standard, since most other groups of people promote avoiding this bias.

3) this is a fact, the question is the method of achieving such dominance.

4) related to 3), that is the main question, at least within specific industries.

There is another way to quickly frame all of this. Critical Race Theory is only applied to white people (in the body of work, and all the discussions around it). What Ye is really doing is applying CRT to jewish people. The irony is spectacular.

[–]Chipit[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Saying they're a race is like saying Latinos are a race

Not at all. Jewishness is 100% an ethnicity. It is detectable on DNA tests.

Do you know what a "shiksa" is? It is a foul white temptress that a Jewish man marries. Since his children won't have a Jewish mother, they won't be ethnically Jewish like he is. It's why they have an ugly slur in their language for women like that.

[–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's at least an ethnicity that has a lot of other races mixed in as well. There are black jewish people in africa, and surely anyone would conclude for all intents and purposes it's a different race than an ashkenazi. So in a way, only a part of jewish people fit the definition of a race, which means as a whole it is not.

[–]Chipit[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, there are others like sephardic, etc. And Israel had a problem with Ethiopian Jews, and forcibly injected them with birth control when they got to Israel in order to stop them breeding. Conspiracy theory? Here's the article in that conspiracy theory newspaper, Haaretz.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-ethiopians-fooled-into-birth-control-1.5226424

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

it's a religion and/or an ethnicity! speaking of double standards...

[–]Chipit[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, it's an ethnicity that practices a religion. It is possible to convert to Judaism, but highly discouraged. Sammy Davis Jr., a black man, famously did so. There are also many, many atheist Jews who never follow any religious teachings, but are still ethnic Jews and still favor their own kind over the rest of us (they call us "goy" which has a meaning like cattle).

Maybe the best way to think of it is like one of those Indian or Central American tribes that has their own religion, and pretty much nobody outside the tribe practices that religion, and even inside the tribe there are those who don't practice.

[–]Canbot 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is not a question nobody asks, that is the first question jewish people ask because it serves as an ad hominem attack. The implication is that he has nefarious reasons for pointing out jewish power and corruption and for that reason no one should pay any attention, and absolutly not consider if he is right.

As for why it is jewish people controling the majority of wealth and power, it has less to do with the religion and more to do with the intense nepotism jews have for each other. They don't hesitate to abuse any authority they have to help another jewish person out. No other group, except maybe gypsies, are so insular and nepotistic.

And the problem is not that they are jewish, as you claim. The problem is that they wield so much power so corruptly that it has very detrimental effects on society. They are by far the biggest contributors to wealth inequality. The biggest source of corruption in government. The biggest source of abuse from corporations. The biggest source of propaganda, censorship, social decline, etc. etc. etc.

It just happens to be that they are jewish. If they were pygmies then kanye would be calling out pygmies.

[–]jet199 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

He has touched on it.

He said just that people with similar backgrounds are more likely to collude.

He used an example of if he were to set up an all black company so they could have a culturally black workspace that would be seen as progressive but when Jewish people do similar things no one is allowed to speak about it.

Edit: also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8EW1YbKJRw

[–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not true, if Kanye said something like "black people aren't intelligent and can't create societies he still would of gotten cancelled.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What's that got to do with my comment?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I suspect Ye has not thought about this because it would require sophisticated arguments having to do with details of the faith and behavioral effects of that.

Kevin Macdonald has.

[–]curious2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

the main question

False. Safety first. Understanding motive might be of academic interest later, but it takes a backseat to the immediate avoidance of threat. It’s certainly not the victim’s burden.

Why would Kanye need to solve the puzzle for “why” any more than the person who chooses to sound the alarm on the correlation between pit bulls and violence?

[–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Part of the challenge here is that the accusation has to do with manipulation of information. The crux of the issue isn't just "they did bad thing X", it's "when attempting to say they did bad thing X, you get bullied and censored". The messenger is vulnerable to this at the time of delivering the message, so unlike other issues it requires more sophisticated arguments to allow for a conversation to even begin.

[–]Bridgeheadprod 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Can someone summarize, what did he do/say that was antisemitic?

[–]Dragonerne 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He said jews own the media and the music industry

[–]Oyveygoyim 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He said they created cancel culture and they responded by attempting to cancel him.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The original is still up with lots of interesting comments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weTZFx0Dt1M

[–]toiletpaper 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

I have never heard Kanye give one hard example of what he is saying that Jews are doing..

He only says bad Jews, Jews own media, Jews control media, bla bla..

Ok, give one single example of something that Jewish are doing in business that has hurt mr Kanye so terribly?

Shalom for g-d

[–]Chipit[S] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

That's because you never actually listened to anything he said. Because he's being censored. Because if we're allowed to think about this, we might come to conclusions that are unacceptable to the wealthy and powerful. Here, watch the man speak in his own words. If you dare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AWLcxTGZPA

What happens when “white” people and “black” people get the idea that they’ve both been duped by a group of people who hates both races and has been playing both sides for generations?

Yikes.

[–]toiletpaper 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

i am getting duped by you and Kanye

no, I am not watching your videos.

you could have told me in two sentences the specific details of how Kanye thinks he was wronged.

kanye deserves to be stripped of his wealth and incarcerated

[–]Chipit[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

LOL a staunch refusal to even listen to the man speak his own words. Why is this not a surprise?

Gosh, this could have come out of the Ministry of Truth in George Orwell's "1984".

"Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew – not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew. Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew. What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money. Very well then! Emancipation from huckstering and money, consequently from practical, real Judaism, would be the self-emancipation of our time. An organization of society which would abolish the preconditions for huckstering, and therefore the possibility of huckstering, would make the Jew impossible. His religious consciousness would be dissipated like a thin haze in the real, vital air of society. On the other hand, if the Jew recognizes that this practical nature of his is futile and works to abolish it, he extricates himself from his previous development and works for human emancipation as such and turns against the supreme practical expression of human self-estrangement."

-- Karl Marx, On the Jewish Question (1843)

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Karl_Marx#On_the_Jewish_Question_(1843)

[–]toiletpaper 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

I have listened, and now I am asking you what did any Jew Media mogul do to Kanye?

I am talking to you.

I hope they put him thru a grinder

[–]Chipit[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

Kanye: "Jews control the media and use this to their advantage"

Jews: "That's an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory!"

Also Jews: "We're removing your ability to speak due to our control over the media."

Don't think that the whole world isn't seeing this, because we are. You can't put the genie back in the bottle.

[–]toiletpaper 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

First, I want to address the claim that Jews remove my ability to speak..

Isn't it the trannies at Reddit that do precisely that, and have also done the same thing at Twitter(until now that Mr musk bought Twitter)

Unless, of course, you don't believe that trannies have been running a brigade at Reddit and Twitter?

Cuz I believe that it is actually well known that trannies will quickly ban you for blinking wrong at Twitter and Reddit.

Your move.

Shalom

[–]Chipit[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Oh, it's the ShalomEveryone paid poster, here again! Hey, remember when you wished that underage white minor girls would be raped by Muslim immigrants? It's just like old times!

[–]Optimus85 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No. It's Ed.

[–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Nice that you exposed yourself.

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    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    https://ihsoyct.github.io/?mode=comments&subreddit=&sort_type=created_utc&sort=desc&author=jacobnjfin

    [–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    Can you look at the history of the 20th century and honestly say you don't get why Jewish people would have someone bringing up the whole 'DA JOOS RULE EVERYTHING SECRET CONSPIRACY BLARRRAR' thing as a button?

    Or, hell, the history of the past twenty centuries? It got worse in the 1900s, but Nazi Germany was not the beginning of all that shit by a long shot.

    Because if you can't, you're a fucking moron. You're already some variety of fucking moron with your attempt to split hairs about 'oh we're only criticizing THE ELITE' when no one ever fucking communicates anything of the sort. And it's never non-Jewish rich people either despite there being rather a lot of those comparatively.

    Which is to say- even if you aren't ten pounds of bullshit crammed into a five pound bag, you're fucking stupid.

    It should not be difficult at all to figure out why Jewish people wouldn't appreciate it when your dumb ass drags out one of the justifications for the fucking Holocaust.

    What next, you're gonna Just Ask Questions about whether or not it was justified to claim for two thousand years that the Jews were 'Christ-killers' because it was far less inconvenient to blame the Judaean populace than it was to denounce the Roman state?

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Jews did 9/11. Fuck yourself kike.

    [–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    And yet you've shown no evidence of this?Also why did osama bin laden admit it then?

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Also why did osama bin laden admit it then?

    He admitted he didn't do it. Your hasbara is weak.

    [–]Chipit[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    I can't help but notice you neither addressed nor refuted anything that was said.

    Which is the whole point, of course. You can't, because it is far more true than you would ever prefer. So you have to...well, you have to lie. To distract. To wave around a frightening scarecrow of muh nazis and change the subject.

    The genie isn't going back in the bottle. People are becoming more and more aware of this, and it's not going away. Blacks, for one, are well aware of what Jewish people have done to them.

    [–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    What exactly have jews done to black people?Also "Jews" are a diverse group of people, and the label can be applied in several different ways. Some people have Jewish ancestry, but may or may not identify as Jews. Others practice Judaism as a religion. Just as with Christianity, there are several denominations of Judaism, which have some common ground but disagree on many other things. Others still may identify as ethnically or culturally Jewish but practice a different religion or no religion at all. So which of these "Jews" would be in control of the media exactly?To summarize, "Jews" are not a uniform or cohesive group. They may be religious, or not. Being Jewish may be important to them, or it might just be a blip on the family tree. They may strongly support Israeli policies, or they may not care at all. Jews have no unified agenda, or system of beliefs, or organizing body.

    As to why people think this?You're unhappy about the way things are going in the world and want someone to blame. Jews have been a convenient scapegoat for centuries, and this is just an extension of this age-old antisemitism.

    [–]Chipit[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    What exactly have jews done to black people?

    Sterilization of black Jews immigrating to Israel.

    In the face of anti-Semitic attacks from blacks, Jews urge other Jews not to forget the real enemy: whites.

    The Jewish Role in Black Slavery. An accurate accounting of the history of Blacks and Jews from the Columbian era to the Civil War, including the extensive record of Jewish slave trading in the western hemisphere.

    And one more: https://files.catbox.moe/e23iib.webm

    [–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    See this is where i question whether or not you actually care about the rich and powerful or if you only care if it's jewish people to some how blame all jews with your sentence"A group of people who hate both white and black".What does normal everyday jewish people have to do with the ones who aren't?I also i'm finding it strange how you never call out non-Jewish rich people either despite there being rather a lot of those comparatively.This is why people like Kanye get censored because if the argument was the rich elites in general instead of ones that happened to jewish,you'd have a point.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    What does normal everyday jewish people have to do with the ones who aren't?I

    Most of you kikes say nothing about the apartheid state of Israel and the infiltration of the US government by Zionists. Meaning you are complicit. Are you one of these kikes?

    [–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    How do you know what everyday jewish people think about the state of Israel?And once again you're proving why Kanye got banned, because this whole thing leads to people like you using Kanye for your hatred for jews rather than having valid criticism.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I've got 109 valid criticisms you question dodging kike. Fuck off back to reddit.

    [–]Gaslov 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    The thing is, I don't think the Jews are doing anything that nobody else would do. If I owned a company, I too, would stop doing business with people who say white people are the cause of the world's problems. I'm not going to enable that crap. Why have a different expectation for Jews?

    But I don't own a company. I don't own shit. Unlike the Jews.

    [–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I mean the weird thing is that rich white people often to the exact opposite.

    This is because class based prejudice and oppression is still more of an issue than any racism in the anglosphere. If they can keep poor whites down they can stand a few personal insults.

    [–]JoeyJoeJoe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Didn't he use the phrase "death con 3 on Jewish people"?

    If so, what an absolute cock head.

    If he can't command the English language properly, or differentiate ideas from groups of people, then he deserves all the pushback he's received.

    Can we get some intelligent disruptor instead please?