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[–]fred_red_beans 17 insightful - 7 fun17 insightful - 6 fun18 insightful - 7 fun -  (67 children)

This is how you know when they say "follow the science" they mean "follow the mob".

[–]jet199 13 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Follow the CCP.

[–]Airbus320 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Follow the BBC.

[–]erratas 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

big black cock

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (62 children)

No - this is what it means when an anti-vax disinformation website links to its source at another anti-vax disinformation website that provides no evidence for the disinformation that 800,000 were deleted:

https://www.axios.com/youtube-removed-30000-covid19-vaccine-videos-misinformation-a8968086-95a4-4d5e-86da-0e22ddbc1b6a.html

Why don't more people question obvious disinformation like this, regardless of their personal interests in vaccines?

It's also not surprising that Youtube wants to remove anti-science and anti-facts disinformation videos. If there are 1000 of them or 30,000 in recent months, think about the special interest groups that are funding the anti-vax campaigns. It's not that they care about anti-vax people. It's that they want people to get used to questioning facts and science. This will help elect Republicans, who can win only with these kinds of people

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    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (40 children)

    Hopefuly you recognize that there is nothing odd or unusual about the 99.9% of the world who believe in science and scientific approaches to viruses, medicine, and other disciplines, while also appreciating the benefits of "school, internet, education, movies, social media, music, etc." FFS

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      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

      Do I deserve all of these attacks and guesswork about who I am or what I do? Is any of that relevant?

      If you have an argument, let's hear it.

      You don't have evidence here to refute the scientific evidence about the benefits of vavccines for COVID19.

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        [–]Jesus 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        95% of people are immune to covid19.

        Herd immunity is almost non-existent for Covid-19 which means a vaccine won't work well if at all. The vaccines cause initial bursts of antibodies followed by tolerization of the immune system making persons seronegative.

        This can ONLY work if they reach their 75% vaccine jab threshold. Which is why they hired Cass Sunstein and other Zionists to market these vaccines by using low demand reverse psychology. They want to profit and then become the heroes when they make everyone seronegative. Then they can deny any long covid.

        And Drag you might be referring to the fact that covid is not dangerous for most of the population. This is true.

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          [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Oh, I see. I don't agree, someone who shows antibodies can still get the virus down the road But show me a study that illustrates natural immunity as the 95% claim. Of course, such a virus that has little impact on a large percentage of the pop. should tell is that it was blown out of proportion for a different reason.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          I had thought they were concerned with bloodclots in Denmark, and thus paused the vaccine program until they better understood the causes of the bloodclots. This is what was reported in newspapers &c (not just the MSM).

          But this is just Denmark.

          Please don't refer to "we", as we're probably not in the same country. And though I too am annoyed with forms of Zionist control, I don't apply it to literally everything.

          [–]JasonCarswell 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

          You are a stubbornly ignorant authoritarian timesuck.

          You ignore the explanation, call them attacks, and demand explanations.

          No answer will suffice.

          Shill behaviour.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

          Drag's argument is without appropriate evidence. That's the main problem. And this doesn't help anyone:

          You are a stubbornly ignorant authoritarian timesuck.

          [–]JasonCarswell 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

          There's an ABUNDANCE of evidence all over this site.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

          Not sure if the site you refer to is Saidit, but if you want to be skeptical of the evidence from the MSM and 99%, it's also appropriate to be skeptical of the minority of sources that claim to have much better information, and is however considered disinformation and misinformation at Youtube because that information cannot be corroborated with scientific reports (ie. in the field of medicine, not MSM). (No need to respond to this.)

          [–]Nancok 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          Calling YouTube jewish, lol
          Idk if you are being sarcastic or...

          [–]JasonCarswell 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

          99.9% of the world who believe in science

          LIE

          Most of the world is in poverty and likely has no clue what the "scientific method" is.

          Without the scientific method with open verifiability, all you have is the scientism dogma and "experts" - just more authoritarianism.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          The 99.9% is not an argument that people understand "science and scientific approaches to viruses." It's an argument that these people "believe in" them, much like they previously believed that the universe rotated around earth.

          [–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          the universe rotated around earth.

          More nonsense.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          At least we can agree on this

          [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

          Scienece is bullocks if they are using lipoproteins in vaccines. Science says the vaccine companies have a profit agenda.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

          If the vaccines are working, and have worked in numerous trials, arguing about lipoproteins might not reach the audience you want to reach.

          [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

          Which Big Pharma corporation do you work for?

          Or better for your anonymity - what field(s) are you currently employed to work in?

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

          Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

          [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

          LOL, That's actually funny. Even hysterical if true, which I doubt because you don't sound SJW enough. You craycray, foshor, but not that crayZ.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

          She, Bernie Sanders and Adam Schiff are the only good politicians in D.C. I might not agree with her on imigration, but I agree with everything else she does (I think). (And no, reductive terms like SJW don't describe her work. Yes, you and I have totally different approaches to politics that would support the 99%, so you know I'm not trolling. You could say I'm crayZ for AOC, but that's not very respectful. Think about ways in which she's exposed hypocrisy in both parties.)

          I wonder if you can name a better politician.

          [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

          They don't work. They create an initial spike in antibodies followed by working on spike protein and using PEG to then tolerize immune response so nobody will test positive anymore. They did this same racketeering op with Lymerix.

          Oh hey, you don't have COVID anymore we tested you!

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          So all of the information - from 1000s of independent sources - is false? I wonder how one can stop the spread of the virus, show demographic evidence of this, with only a placebo, or amino acid.

          [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          from 1000s of independent sources

          LOL

          [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Sure, if they refuse to acknowledge that COVID-19 has nearly non-existent herd immunity and that PEG has been known since the 80's to cause immune toleration. Search badlyme attitude blog and click his twitter. Read on.

          [–]JasonCarswell 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

          think about the special interest groups that are funding the anti-vax campaigns.

          Same shitty sentiment goes the other way:

          " Think about the special interest groups that are funding the PRO-vax campaigns. "

          Shilling selective hypocrisy.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          If we think of pro-vax campaigns in the manner you mention here, there is no need for special funding, or shills, or special, paid programs that support vaccines, especially because 99% of the world's population (rough estimate) support vaccines, thanks especially to successes of the polio vaccine and other vaccines since the 19th century. There is no 'pro-vax' shill network because there doesn't have to be one.

          [–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          because 99% of the world's population (rough estimate) support vaccines

          100% bullshit.

          Wake up. The pro-vax shill network IS the MSM corporate media and their propaganda.

          Further, the polio vaccine was VERY problematic - and happened to coincide with profound advancements in sanitation in the first world which many say is the more likely reason why people weren't as sick.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          OK - 71.5% of those surveyed by this group said they'd potentially take the vaccine: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-1124-9

          [–]Jesus 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

          Socks, the vaccines have PEG in them. They have no long-term safety trials and work on the spike protein like HIV. Anyone taking the vaccines is unknowingly part of the cover-up. The goal was to slightly increase antibody counts and then long term toleration via PEG lipo-proteins against this cut and paste virus which was the catalyst for the promied stakeholder "vaccine revolution" in 2019. The result? The cases start to decline because now people are seronegative and thr heroes are the state and multi-national vaccine corporations. Long term Covid or whatever it is remains, they claim psychosomatic illness and use pharma vigilance markets to sell more masking drugs.

          Easy and crafty!! I get it. Q-anon zios think th vaccines have microchips in them. No, they are just part of the cover-up, and vaccine revolution.

          Most of the companies anyway are owned by Zionists.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

          Thanks for this. I too am worried about some of the approaches to the vaccine, and I will revisit the PEG controversy, and read more on this. But what I've seen is that the extensive trials have been successful and that the vaccine will help get people back to work and re-open small businesses. Yes, there may be rare problems with the vaccine, or problems we don't yet understand, but 99.99% of them have not come to light. I appreciate that we should remain sceptical, but as with the polio vaccine, there is a proven history of the health benefits of vaccines.

          [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

          But what I've seen is that the extensive trials have been successful and that the vaccine will help get people back to work and re-open small businesses.

          Yeah, due to falsifying the diagnostics through immune manipulation. Had they been sucessful with Lymerix and didn't screw it up, Lyme wouldn't exist (it would), and they would have been misdiagnosed as say schizophrenia or anxiety or panic dosorder or whatever.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

          Lyme disease is not a virus.

          It's caused by bacterium Borrelia burgdorferi and sometimes, Borrelia mayonii.

          (Approches to vaccines and anti-biotics are entirely different.)

          [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

          Spirochetes have their own phylum. It isn't even a bacteria as drs like to claim. True, but PEG lipo-proteins are much the same.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

          Interesting.

          [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          Why?

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          I'll have to read more about spirochetes, which I had thought are bacteria, or rather borreliae, which are genera of bacteria of the spirochete phylum.

          [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

          The vaccine won't do crap other than tolerize immunity so people will become seronegative. In fact people might become sicker in the long run due to latent opportunistic infections. You get the vaccine you are complicit in the cover-up that will send all chronic covid patients to the psychosomatic department of Zio shill doctors to profit off of them with expensive drugs.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

          But I cannot find any reliable medical resources that will corroborate any of this. It seems to be made-up by anti-vax campaigns, which spread disinformation.

          [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          100% BULLSHIT

          [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          Nope, not at all. Search actionlyme.org or badlymeartitude blog and that blogs twitter. Hundreds of studies are posted there.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          OK - I've begun looking at sites listed at the left of actionlyme.org and will continue looking

          [–]Iswearbymyfloralhat 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          No, its surprising. And science, by definition needs to be questioned. Also, this vaccine will kill way more than the virus. They knew back in 2012 that a corona vax would cause hypersensitivity and advised against it."Caution in proceeding to application of a SARS-CoV vaccine in humans is indicated." Now when everyone that has the jab gets the seasonal flu, they might die. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3335060/

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Very good article. Although "caution ...[was] indicated," that 2012 research was superseded in 2020 with other approaches and numerous trials that included studies of the hypersensitivity. As one develops antibodies to certain viruses - including the seasonal flu - one is less likely to suffer the consequences of a virus outbreak. A remaning question might be: will people become dependent on seasonal flu jabs? In any event, reducing the spread of the virus so that people can return to work is another benefit of this widely tested vaccine (even if it's in conjunction with masks and social distancing). And now it seems 100 million in the US have had the first jab. Are they fucked? Not likely.

          [–]Nancok 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Isn't WHO actually based on the scientific method?

          [–]RightousBob 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

          Time to DELETE YouTube! Boycott and divest!

          [–]VirgilGriff 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          Remember that the WHO said a year ago that there was no evidence of human-to-human transmission of nCov-2019 even as China was welding people into homes. They also had some soyboy little cucklet say that he'd want to be treated for COVID-19 in China if he got it, and Tedros lied his ass off every day about how countries shouldn't close their borders. Telling people about these lies would've gotten you banned back then, just like talking about the current lies would get you banned.

          [–]adultmanhwa 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          If China even welding people into homes, that's bizarrely can be understood.
          Because they're strangely in the forefront of covid war.

          But I'm really curious whether they still doing that or not

          [–]madcow-5 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          No doubt. They've been scrambling to keep people in as tight of an information bubble as possible for the last year. Go to reddit for a few minutes and you'll see it. These people are living in a completely different reality, controlled by big tech and the CCP.

          [–]Questionable 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Seems a tad low to me.

          [–]BulbusBeanQueen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Supreme African Commi tedros said so, it mush be true.