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[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

You mean the study that was funded by a group that had never released any scientific studies before and was chaired by Steve Bannon? Yes, very compelling.

[–]insta 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

So tired of the study worshipers. Nobody reads past the Abstract or actually understands any of these things anyways.

And even if people do accept the "findings" as valid they just explain it away with some excuse anyways. We have a Chinese doctor directly related to COVID19 and she's whistleblowing and half of the population is just handwaving it away as some Alex Jones conspiracy theory.

Nobody cares about science nobody cares about facts. It's about propaganda and ideology.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

We have a Chinese doctor directly related to COVID19 and she's whistleblowing and half of the population is just handwaving it away as some Alex Jones conspiracy theory.

So your two qualifiers are "chinese", and "doctor". First off, she's from Hong Kong. Not China. Second off, if this were just a fucking doctor everyone should dismiss this shit. Doctors don't analyze viruses looking for clues like this.

Finally, the fact that this "study" comes from an org run by a a former Trump advisor that has never published a study matters. So does the fact that this person is neither "Chinese" nor a doctor, yet you casually assert that they are both.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where do you think Hong Kong is? And she's a doctor of (natural) philosophy.

[–]insta 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

So your two qualifiers are "chinese", and "doctor".... Doctors don't analyze viruses looking for clues like this.

You're just gas-lighting right now. Dude, she's a virologist and she's literally born in China.

This is why nobody takes you I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE!!1! people seriously. You guys just cloak yourselves in appeals to authority and cherry pick the fuck out your examples.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Hong Kong considers themselves separate from China, and a lot of people from Hong Kong hate China. That matters especially in this context, where you have the study's author accusing China of manufacturing the virus. I was taking him at his word that this person was a doctor (i.e. not a scientist), but I shouldn't have made that assumption.

This is why nobody takes you I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE!!1! people seriously. You guys just cloak yourselves in appeals to authority and cherry pick the fuck out your examples.

There have already been many separate studies into the origins of SARS-CoV-2 and they all show no evidence that it was made in a lab. You have this one isolated study that contradicts the others and is suggesting a conspiracy, and it came from a group that has never released a study before and chaired by Steve Bannon. In acting like this is supposed to be compelling despite all the other evidence on the subject, the one doing the cherry picking is you.

[–]insta 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Hong Kong considers themselves separate from China, and a lot of people from Hong Kong hate China.

Again, she's Chinese. I also find it a little ironic that the second it's Hong Kong "science" accusing the Chinese (of which they both are) of doing something then suddenly you have no problem grasping the idea that there might be corruption. I find that very charming.

You have this one isolated study that contradicts the others

Again, I love love love how you keep pivoting to "Oh well my study says". She's a whistleblower, not a study. You're so desperate to tie to this Bannon because you guys are obsessed with appeals to authority. I know you want to keep this dishonest autistic lens fastened to your face because you want to win some internet points but please try to think for yourself in a slightly abstract way.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

suddenly you have no problem grasping the idea that there might be corruption. I find that very charming.

Nice lazy strawman there bro.

She's a whistleblower, not a study.

Oh really? She was part of the team that made this? Or was she a member of the CCP that knew about it?

[–]insta 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Nice lazy strawman there bro.

Hit a little close to home, didnit?

The moment the Science!TM goes against you corruption is totally valid but the second it's not the narrative is to believed or you're Alex Jones-level conspiracy theorists.

Oh really? She was part of the team that made this? Or was she a member of the CCP that knew about it?

Nah, she's definitely just staking her name and her career to sell some book about her uncles presidency. It's not like she's living in an authoritarian hellscape of a country or anything. She's defs just doing it for the Twitter clout. Just wait, she'll be out with a memoir soon and do all the morning talk shows. You nailed it.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Nice deflection on the point that she is not in fact a whistleblower like you claimed. Also, you seem to have a short-term memory, so I will remind you: The theory that it could be man made was proposed several months ago, and there have already been several studies investigating the origins of SARS-CoV-2, and they all concluded that it isn't man made. This "study" doesn't override those without compelling evidence. That's not how science works.

[–]insta 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's not how science works.

You're right. There's always one approved answer and scientists always agree on that fact. If you disagree with that narrative you're not apart of Science!TM It's totally black and white. That's how science works.

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think you might find this sub of interest.

You may also take interest in Robert F. Kennedy Jr's Instagram page.

[–]Velocity 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

More compelling than random internet guy's condescending remarks.