Derrick Jensen of Deep Green Resistance exposed the links between queer theory and paedophilia. Now the video has been banned from YouTube. Watch it here.

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[–]kwallio 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I suppose I should educate myself on queer theory before spouting off about it, but so much of it and queer activist types seems like an adolescent shouting "you can't tell me what to do" at their mom.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Here's a few good essays on the subject too.

https://uncommongroundmedia.com/the-trojan-unicorn-queer-theory-and-paedophilia-part-i-%EF%BB%BF-dr-em/

These isn't some mad tin foil hat stuff, all the major queer theorists are openly pro paedophilia in their published work. They really think raping children will undermine the evil system and bring about the revolution. That's how dumb and damaging the whole thing is.

[–]Questionable 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Well for starters, we should stop calling these people pedophiles. They are advocating molestation and rape, and hiding behind the term used for their urges. And no, an urge is not an orientation. Orientations take place between consenting adults. The older more accurate term for these people is from prison life, ChiMo, meaning child molester. Sounds a little ghetto sure, but they earned that title in the court yards of maximum security prisons, and by raping and molesting children.

This isn't about their thoughts, this is about their inappropriate actions and contact with minors. There advocacy for inappropriate actions and interactions with minors. When they use this clinical term, they lump themselves in with people capable of controlling their urges. Thus when we attack them for their actions using this term, we accuse innocent people of what amounts to thought crimes. The topic becomes confused. This isn't about their urges, this is about their lack of self control, and their actual actions.

Similarly, I don't care if my neighbor has sexual urges for my golden retriever (zoophilia). It's only a problem when he starts up a discord channel advocating fucking dogs, and has bought a special brush for grooming my dog, that he has crossed a line (bestiality).

As a society, we should not allow them to grant themselves a title that simply labels them as having urges, because that is not what they are. These people are rapists. They are child molesters. They are sexual deviants. It's not their thoughts that are criminal, it is the content of their character, as portrayed through their actions and words, their inappropriate interaction with minors, this is what makes them reprehensible.

ChiMo, or more preferably, child molester, rapist, child rapist, sexual deviant. leveled sex offender, advocate of statutory rape, and sexual enslavement. Really detail their criminal behavior for what it is. Lay out in detail their reprehensible nature, make people think of what it is they stand for.

But that's just the way I see it. I like to use words correctly, and not use short hand terminology that discourage thinking about what is really being said.

Hǝllo ʍoɹlp' I,ɯ Qnǝsʇᴉouɐqlǝ.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Very insightful. I hadn't thought about much of that.

Not that I'd want to. But I did write these because in 2016-2017 there were no actual lists online of all the ruling class pedos out there:
https://infogalactic.com/info/Pedophocracy
https://infogalactic.com/info/List_of_acknowledged_pedophilia_elites
https://infogalactic.com/info/List_of_alleged_pedophilia_elites

[–]Canbot 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

While I don't know anything about Queer theory, it does sounds to me like leftist pseudo intellectual arguments for the support of degenerate behavior in service of hedonism. So naturally if you are making unsound arguments for hedonism you would inevitably have to reach the point of support for pedophilia as that is a hedonistic pursuit. But the argument for that has to be that Queer theory is not based on objective facts but rather convenient subjective arguments that are constructed from the desired conclusion rather than from first principals. That is not really what he does. In fact he sounds kind of gay to me, and I suspect he would never attack that kind of pseudo intellectualism because he needs it to support his own degeneracy.

So what he is doing is trying to get everyone to go down the road of degeneracy exactly to the point where he likes it, but no further. And he has to make the illogical argument that if Queer theorists are pedo's that means that by transitive property Queer theory is in support of pedo's; and that is not logical. Even cannibals can write a cook book that does not have any recipes that use human meat.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

" making unsound arguments " is the problem.

I have no problem with hedonism. Everything in moderation, including moderation. But what is "moderation"?

We've always had celebrations, festivals, holidays, weekends, and evenings off since they made up the sabbath.

Everyone who has sex or does drugs more than you is a slut or junkie but everyone who does less is a prude or uptight.

There's always worse and better. Same thing applies to wealth.

It's the extremes that are the problem. Extreme wealth means they are exploiting everything. Extreme poverty leads to death. Extreme prudishness leads to extinction. Extreme perversion can lead to exploiting everything.

[–]blah-blah-blah-blah 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Next pedophilia, then bestiality, then what - cannibalism? How far down does this rabbit hole of debasement and depravity go?

What can we do to save civilization if this kind of rot is allowed to infest universities and perhaps become mainstream? Do people not understand how insane it is that this perversity is allowed to be discussed, much less openly advocated? These people need to be merged with infinity at the soonest possible interval, for the sake humanity's continued existence.

[–]throwitaway 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you want to know where people found out about the rabbit hole of debasement, read some of the old Gay Rights manuals. I was so surprised... http://www.againstequality.org/files/refugees_from_amerika_a_gay_manifesto_1969.pdf In this one, gay man is talking about letting lesbians join the cause but telling gay men to quiet down their sexist speech (Found Under Category "On Women". Then it goes into speeches on oppression but then also mentions children being sexual earlier than people think and kids can take care of themselves! Then it talks about sex with animals like a science breakthrough in sexual relations with ...Dolphins??? Under the category "On Sex" These men also have a different view about sexual freedom and I wonder how many lesbians understand that they basically want to have sex with whatever they want as their version of sexual freedom. Also talk about "chicken and studs" Talks about young bodies etc...

Then another one gets crazier and combative.

Gay Revolutionary put out in the eighties first line is about sodomizing the youth and talks about infiltrating everywhere and aggressive tones towards heterosexuals.

In this one below...The blue print called "The Overhauling of Straight America" talking about infiltrating the media, victim campaign and tells NAMBLA (boy pedo group) to stay off in the distance for this campaign because nobody will believe pedophiles as victims. Get the media on your side. Attack anyone that disagrees. It was later turned into a book. This one written also in the 80s but you'd swear it was written just a couple of years ago.

http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm

https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/pwh/swift1.asp

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Next: necrophilia then... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_paraphilias.

Uniperversity, where cis ideas go to get corrupted via every orifice for full spectrum dominance and submission (but no BDS without the M).

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Derrick Jensen is terrific on philosophy and environment issues.

He was abused as a child.

I don't buy into these deviancy links. Just because someone does A leads to B leads to C. Being gay doesn't mean you take it in the ass (many do), much less are a pedo (some are, straight too).

By that logic anyone who kisses leads to sex leads to rape leads to murder. All kissers are murderers.

Anyone who smokes leads to drinking leads to alcoholism leads to drug abuse leads to overdosing. All smokers will overdose.

EDIT: I couldn't watch in my browser so I downloaded it and finally got around to watching it. I'd seen this before in the full video. It seems clear to me but worth repeating that Derrick Jensen is NOT in favour of supporting pedophilia in this 5:54 queer theory clip from a larger conversation. I still don't get queer theory.

[–]kwallio 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I think if you listen to TRA rhetoric it can sort of slippery slope to pedophilia. I don't think trans people are pedos uniformly per se, but if you say that a child can make their own decisions re: hormones and transitioning at the age of 7, then why not be able to consent also? Allowing young children to decide life changing, long lasting things at that age is a super bad idea. I'm not a doctor but personally I think it is probably a bad idea to do the Jazz Jennings thing where she went through the opposite sex puberty after taking hormone blockers. I think for developmental reasons its probably much better to go through the puberty of your own sex (and then transition if you want) but there is no data on this.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

While all kids mature at different rates, IMO, there should be a hard line, say 16 or 18 whereon the kid can drink, sex, military, drive, etc - a universal step into adulthood. Certainly not all kids will be smart or mature (just like any age), but they will be potentially functional solo. Up to that point they should be protected intact as they are, whatever that may be, by their family, community, and the state.

[–]kwallio 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I'm ok with 18 being the age for everything (including drinking alcohol, that the age is 21 seems stupid to me). I think if you can sign up for the military you should be able to rent a car and drink, too.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

IMO the drinking age is stupid. North America has outsourced the jobs of the parent to the state.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

You are confusing queer people with queer theory, two complete different things.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I guess I am.

Can you please explain and/or point me to some clear and short content, preferably a YouTube vid or few or a short article?

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-queer-theory/

Queer theory is actually homophobic and transphobic because is says there is no innate sexuality or gender, everything is performative. So gay people chose to be gay, trans people chose to be trans, women chose to be weaker than men and get raped, etc. However a lot of gay and trans people like it because it turns them into heroes of the glorious revolution without them having to do anything.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks. I'll have to read that again to make it stick. In a nutshell: it seems like a fancy fantasy to make excuses for bullshit.

[–]throwitaway 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are plenty of people that are trans talking about queer theory. Many also call themselves Marxists. Many are also harassing women online with death threats because lesbians are turning them down and they harass anyone that disagree with these narratives. BTW, transphobia is a dumb shaming word. Still using the same guidelines huh... Straight from the playbook...

http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm