you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

i bet when they adopted the 'don't be evil' motto they already were hell bent on being evil

[–]blowininthewind 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

i would not go so far as that. these things are complicated yet not sufficient understanding has been spread across a great enough population. i find the theory of ethics very hard, after i took an intro course in ethics in college. for an idea to be widely accepted, especially a social one, takes decades and even centuries to sort out. in fact, you don't need to go into the social sciences to find an example. perhaps due to the AI winters, a very classic and powerful idea in the field of AI, support vector machine, took three to four decades to reach a common researcher's ear from its birth as this sorta footnote on a Russian research paper. now it's taught as a standard tool at an introductory level.

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

i just think the cia was involved from their early days, so at no point in time were they not evil. i mean, the cia was created by merging the oss with the gestapo (operation paperclip). this should hinder anything good completely.

[–]blowininthewind 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

how is the CIA involved? youtube belongs to alphabet?

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

i think in-q-tel or some other cia front company provided seed money (before they changed their name to alphabet)

[–]blowininthewind 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

could be.

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

no company grows big and esp. powerful without serving the deep state.

[–]blowininthewind 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

but why is that necessarily a bad thing?

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

the state should be stripped of all power. the state should be weak and small. it is the people who should be strong, rich and powerful.

[–]blowininthewind 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

do people want to be strong, rich and powerful? do most of us want it so badly? i don't really think so. a lot of people, for all i know, rejoices when there are rules to obey, when there are chains to wear and cubicles to live. they rejoice when they pick up five bucks at the back of the alley and drinks that money away, ignoring the potential millions they could make in their years to come. life is like a river, and lots of us only dip our feet in it. in the end, a lot of them got a fair result: a shallow, crestless life.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, the state should be marginal but a government should be errected in a republic for the people and by the people to provide allodial title, public lands, and freedom and liberty for all people.

Take it ALL away and you are left with corporate private entities with their corporate lawyer hence-men. The government obviously has to be decentralised and refuced but only if it benefits the people as the government was intended to be the people.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Deep state" in Trump's rhetoric? Or just the intelligence state that has always been around to do whatever the hell it wants to?