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[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Whats the big cover up? Is anybody really trying to hide the fact that brown people can be criminals? I think the entire conspiracy of Pakistani British guys going around raping people is a bit of a red herring. The brown folk are convenient scapegoats to make you feel like you're doing something about the problem when it is too difficult to confront the fact that the real conspiracy to get away with sexual exploitation in Britain is perpetrated by the elite who have ties to the royals. Remind me how the population of Britain would never contemplate the sexual exploitation of the youngsters when you all let Jimmy Saville and a few British MPs openly get away with it while never once sincerely questioning the link between Prince Charles and Savile or the link between Prince Andrew and Epstein? I guess its a lot easier to pretend only brown savages rape vulnerable white women huh?

[–]Canbot[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

No one is pretending only brown people commit crimes. You are creating a straw man argument to deflect from the reality that brown people are disproportionately committing crimes. Acknowledging that is not the same as claiming white people don't commit crimes. It's a matter of propensity and it matters.

The media hides the criminality of minorities to make it impossible for the regular person to realize the costs of leftist ideology. I don't want to make unfair or unwarranted accusations, I want the facts to be openly discussed and not buried by the media who's purpose should be to reveal the facts.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The media hides the criminality of minorities to make it impossible for the regular person to realize the costs of leftist ideology

There definitely is an agenda in the media but from my perspective, its just a divide and conquer strategy to inflame racial and partisan division. Among other things, you want social cohesion along ethnic and political lines to be low as that makes for a perpetual opportunity to exploit. Any time there is a mainstream narrative to validate your advocacy to freely discuss things, it serves to undermine that social cohesion. I think throwing that accusation of British Pakistani pedophile ring out there was something the media was quick to do around 2015-2016 and it served a nefarious purpose.

that brown people are disproportionately committing crimes.

I don't see any reason why this is the case. What exactly makes brown savages more likely to commit sexual violence? Nothing in particular as far as I can see. As soon as the British tabloids started picking up on the royal family's connections with Epstein and Saville and rumors of human trafficking started to circulate, you got Carl Beech and a loosely stringed together accusation of brown folks running pedophile rings due to their innate tendency to be pedophiles. If you think brown people having an inherent tendency to be rapists is the pressing issue of our time, that is up to you. I personally think that if Britain truly cared about the exploitation of the young, they'd investigate the royal family and the British elite who actually get away with these crimes. The reason you won't be able to include that in any statistics or analysis of trends is because those people never get caught but ultimately, they are the ones who might have actually been involved in organized trafficking along with Epstein, Saville and even the Saudi royal family.

To give your case some credit, you could argue that Pakistanis are more likely to commit sexual violence due to a sexually repressive and conservative culture but that is as far as it goes. If you want to look for systemic problems with sexual exploitation in Britain, you have to look elsewhere.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/UK/VIPaedophile

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Indeed. Great analysis.

And thanks for linking that.

If you want even more than just the UK and for more context, take a look at the original article https://infogalactic.com/info/Pedophocracy that I need to finish importing the rest of onto WikiSpooks.

[–]Canbot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

that brown people are disproportionately committing crimes.

I don't see any reason why this is the case.

Because you have been brainwashed. It IS the case, period. You are literally in disbelief of reality.

[–]Canbot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If you think brown people having an inherent tendency to be rapists is the pressing issue of our time, that is up to you.

This is the leftist way of thinking. "There are no objective facts, everyone just makes up whenever they want just like I do". Until you realize that not everyone operates that way there is simply never going to be a way to have a reasonable discussion with you because no matter how much evidence I have it is never enough for you, and no evidence is ever needed to confirm your bias.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is the leftist way of thinking.

Dude, I'm not a leftist. The left-right paradigm is a fraud and it is you who is duped by buying into it.

[–]Canbot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You may not see yourself that way but you are in denial of provable, objective facts. Brown people do commit more rapes than Hispanics who commit more rapes than whites, who commit more rapes than Asians. If your approach to that conversation is simply to attack me with ad hominems and strawmen then you are arguing like a leftist. You deny reality and attack with fallacies, that is the way of the leftist.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But you don't take into consideration that stranger rapes are rare and most rapists were known to the victim, so your point is kind of moot...

[–]Canbot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That changes nothing at all. Even when you look exclusively at stranger rapes the distribution is the same.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

" the reality that brown people are disproportionately committing crimes "

SOME brown people. Obviously not all types of people are the same. Migrant "illegal" workers for example commit far fewer crimes because they can't risk getting caught even for minor infractions. Further, young single men with nothing to lose are FAR more dangerous than older secure family men with responsibilities and everything to lose.

" the media who's purpose should be to reveal the facts. "

Indeed. Key word: "should". Their real purpose is to serve and protect the ruling class - like all their rigged systems.

[–]Canbot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

SOME brown people

Stop conflating individuals with demographics. The exceptions don't disprove the rule, and even if the proportion of people in that demographic committing crimes is subjectively low it does not change the fact that it is higher than in other demographics.

We should have an honest dialogue about how to interpret these facts, and what to do about them, and not have a total blackout on facts and evidence. This is disgusting and dystopian.

Migrant "illegal" workers for example commit far fewer crimes

This is one of those made up claims that has zero evidence but leftists demand it is a fact simply because you don't need evidence when making leftist claims.

Actual evidence shows that crime in migrant dense neighborhoods is higher than average. But this is denied by leftists because no evidence is ever enough for counter left wing arguments.

But all of that is irrelevant, this is a discussion about media suppression of facts in collusion with government. It's about the lies, not about the statistics, or your feelings.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

to deflect from the reality that brown people are disproportionately committing crimes.

I don't agree with this, even though I can see where you're coming from.

Depends of what crime you're talking about. Most policians assholes and cops/government agents aren't brown people.

Of course, I won't deny that in real life, I think that I'm less likely to be mugged by a stranger chinese than a stranger black. But I'm also less likely to get attacked by a chinese than a white american...

However, in my personal experience I'm way less likely to get betrayed by a black man than a white person. They are usually more sincere and don't mess around with their thoughts.

So your assumptions are probably not 100% accurate in the first place and It's maybe the statistical difference may be too low to be relevant anyway.

Secondly, you don't take into considerations their circumstances. Cops are more likely to shoot them (FACT) and are way more likely to harass them (FACT). Some of them are completely lost, they came from foster families or other unnatural circumstances.

HOWEVER, regardless of your thoughts, what I will never accept is wanting to take (violent) pre-emptive action (like stupid national borders) against people because of their ethnic group.

[–]Canbot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is honestly frightening the level to which people have become brainwashed. Borders are not violence. That very construct is so idiotic I don't even know where to try and poke a hole because it is so totally absurd on its face that to believe it you must completely lack the ability to think rationally. No nation can survive without borders. Particularly not one with welfare programs. Even the most radical left wing communist nation has to have a border. No borders means no nations, and no nations means chaos. It is a world of dog eat dog, where the strong dominate the weak. Where those who can organize eventually win out and build a nation with borders.

It does not matter if you agree or not, reality remains the same. You are denying reality. So I don't see any point in trying to have a conversation with you. You are irrational. Studies prove it. Anyone can look at a map with an overlay of minority concentration and crime and see for themselves that his is true.

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    [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I wondered about that too. "Asian" could mean anyone from Moscow to Jerusalem to Dubai to Delhi to Bangkok to Hong Kong to Seoul or Tokyo - and so much more.

    [–]NeoSilvanus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    meanwhile your right wing government is covering up crimes left and right.

    [–]Canbot[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Don't claim it, reveal it.

    [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You mean totalitarian government. The "people" are no longer represented on the right or left. The right and left have merged. Capitalism and communism are one. They just play the masses for fools by pretending that tribalism even matters.

    There are MANY wars on but the only one that matters is the class war and unless we rise up somehow to bring more transparency, responsibility, legitimacy, authenticity, and decentralize into countless alternatives and solutions we'll be trapped under the full spectrum dominance of the ruling class.

    [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Sounds like the worst luck ever. Perhaps worse than https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candide .

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      [–]Canbot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      actually no. I am complaining about the degree to which the media lies to us and has us fooled. We are made incredibly ignorant by their censorship. I want to pierce through their veil.