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[–]iamonlyoneman 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (20 children)

The only people who care what words mean are the people who want to know what text says. If you're not going to read it or abide by it, get whatever fake translation floats your twinkie.

[–]Chipit[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

So why don't you learn Aramaic and read the Bible in the original?

whatever fake translation

They are all translations from a dead language. Using one from centuries ago is foolish. We have a much better understanding of linguistics now and can make far superior translations.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

they weren't originally aramaic they were greek

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

No, they were from Palestinian areas, which was Aramaic. There is evidence that our Greek gospels are based on translations of lost originals. Although a few not-so-carefully-copied and heavily revised copies of Matthew in Hebrew have survived.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

no they in greek

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Just because our current documents are in Greek doesn't mean that the authors spoke Greek, or even that the original writing was in Greek.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

it was in greek sorry

jesus and the guys speaking aramaic were illiterate so it makes sense, someone wrote it in greek later from oral teachings

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

That's possible, but that's still someone else who translated their ideas into Greek.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

yeah it helps explain also why they're not trustworthy, written 100 years after jesus died, the story can change many times thru oral tellings of it.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

It wasn't 100 years, and they clearly copied from written sources.

But the church fathers surely added a lot of their own material.