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[–]useless_aether 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

911 From Cheney to Mossad (8 minutes): https://www.bitchute.com/video/8yTVRmGMx9Dd/ ( https://methodicaldeception.com/ )

"THE GREAT WORK" (NWO) -David Rockefeller and Dick Cheney https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTVi5j1uiDA

[–]send_nasty_stuff[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

Thanks for the links.

Seems like Perloff has some reservations about this women.

https://jamesperloff.com/2016/01/02/some-in-truth-movement-are-asking-questions-about-rebekah-roth/

I watched that bitchute video and I had heard about the Israeli 'art students' but hadn't heard about the Woolworth building.

I'm going to need a lot more evidence before I go around saying the missiles were flung at the building. Why send a missile when you already have it wired for demolition and you have a plane flying into it?

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (22 children)

yeah, this is the thing with the world of conspiracy theorists, its hard to say at first who is a disinfo agent and controlled opposition and who is a real truth seeker.

i am not giving perloff my full trust, because max igan is also accused of scams, three out of four youtube videos cited as proof against roth were missing and the one still functioning was to the 'beyond the veil' yt channel with clear occult and satanic symbology. so after a very superficial glance roth is still slightly ahead in my book.. anyway, very interesting, and thanks for the heads up, i will keep my ears open! :-)

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

You still have to make it "look like" an airplane. Easier to blow up a plane while the missile you can more reliably direct where intended.

The thing people forget to look more deeply into are the flights of the planes blown up in PA and crashed in DC. How were people on those planes able to make phone calls?

You have to remember, this was not the exact science in 2001 that it is today.

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

look mum, no planes! https://www.brighteon.com/5835212290001

and:

The 9/11 hijackers are alive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9kEwQud4Ek

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I'm going to have to watch September Clies again but I do believe the planes were reinforced tankers or commerical jets painted to look exactly like the passenger planes on 9/11. They were drones they did not meed hijackers just the narrative of them in flight school which they willingly did with their mossad handlers.

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

hey man, i meant to ask you, why do you think loose change is tainted?

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Because they never mention Zionism or the necons, AND the director and creator of Loose Change is Jewish and was a gatekeeper from the very start. How do I know, because he is now featured on BBC documentary pushing the 'Let it happen theory.' The last psyop narrative in the 9/11 truth shills. The let in happen narrative implies the US government wanted it to happen and did nothing to stop it, not that they were the planners and/or conducted 9/11 or that neocon Zionist think tanks did the same.

His goal, like Alex Jones, was to get a lot of money in the heat of the moment, much of the documentary was true, but that's the catch. They lay blame, people catch on, they are rewarded a following, they then slowly denounce their own documentary. The director is a shill, no doubt.

He even said in the BBC documentary, that he doesn't believe anything he made prior to the BBC doc., I believe he did this because he doesn't want people to look too deeply into the planners. How can you create an entire documentary concerning the demolition of the towers, the plane/drone psyops mixed in with what I think is disinfo and then out of nowhere denounce your own work.

Clearly he's some kind of asset, and that is why Loose Change was on Netflix for so many years. If it was real truth, it would never be left on netflix.

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

thanks, your reasoning makes sense :-)

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

ANYONE pushing the 'Let it happen theory' legitimizes the offiicial 9/11 narrative. THis narrative has been used to disciminate muslims in mass and lead to wars of mass slaughter and the balkenization of the middle east. If you see anyone pushing this theory or exclaiming after years of believing that 9/11 was an inside job w/ a team of demolition experts only to then denounce all of these theories is to show your cards.

As for Metholodical Deception, look up Lets roll forums or search Roth as a intelligence agent. She's a spook no doubt as are nearly ALL of the players at the top of 9/11 truth. AEfor911 truth seems legit and much of what comes out of their organization is based on facts and figures, though they too have many people trying to infiltrate. The real information will NOT be promoted on YouTube or Amazon.

Bollyn seems to be a wealth of information but when I read his book I wondered why he NEVER mentioned anything about PNAC, DPG, and the many documents illustrating the need for a New Pearl Harbor. Nor did he mention anything about Dov Zacheim as comptroller or his connects to WTC7, the planes and drones.

I assume he didn't know anyof this because he writes a whole chapter on the planes and those involved but these things are well known by most 9/11 truth seekers. I know adam Green(berg) is a shill connected to Viacom and the mannying brothers who worked with Trump on many occasions. Adam is a cousin to the Mannings. Weird and he worked at Viacom before becoming a Truth Seeker. After shilling for Alex Jones and Trump, he then denounced his views and started to attack Trump and Jones, which leads me to believe he is the 2nd layer gatekeeper after Jones, His job is to surviel and at the very least spread disinfo, such as having shill guests come on and say Hitler was a Bolshevik which is nonense.

SO, ADAM also has Bollyn come on time and time again, which I find odd, and Bollyn has an Israeli wife and use to work at IBM of all places. IDK, lots of these people have so many shady connections even if they are spreading a lot of truth.

[–]send_nasty_stuff[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I know adam Green(berg) is a shill connected to Viacom

There was a thread on pol this morning about Green. You might just be right about him.

such as having shill guests come on and say Hitler was a Bolshevik which is nonense

That was a big red flag for me as well. Unfortunately my favorite podcasters Tim Kelly and Joe Atwill have given some air time to people pushing these theories that Hitler was a Rothschild 'agent' which is silly. He might have gotten money early on but very clearly turned against central banking as he rose to power.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Zio's will do anything to control their opposition. Even promoting the opposition and exposing themselves, as long as they can control it!!

It's ingenious.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, tell useless_aether that you posted the Perloff link. I certainly think Perloff is a shill, but useless is claiming I posted the link here, when it was you and there's occult symbolism on it, so now I'm a shill Jesuit deceiver pushing occultism according to user useless_aether. Quite annoying.

As for Adam Green, he is a gatekeeper. I know this because when he started having on Bjerknes, he would delete anyone who debunked these claims in the chat room. Hitler a Bolshevik??? Gove me a break, no scholar would believe such a thing.

Green also works with Bollyn. Bollyn exposes Zionism, like Green, right??

I mean, how could they be shills if they are exposing Zionism? Duckduckgo: takebackourworld.com Christopher Bollyn controlled opposition. It's crazy the guy has family connection to Murdoch, even skiing with them before the 9/11 event.

It appears the so-called top investigators exposing Zionist involvement in 9/11 are actually cointelpro. 90% truth, 10% lies; or 98% truth 2% disinfo and the job of surveilling and controlling the movement!

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The phone call bullshit is just that bullshit. It allows you to accept the theory that either the passengers were real and killed lateron at a miliatry base after transponder exchange with reinforced commerical airliner drone with beacon device destination (Rabbi Dov Zachiem style) or that the were low enought to call cia the plane. Whatever the case it is another psyop. I believe many if not all the people you see talking about their loved ones that died on the planes only that day are dakes, frauds, propgandists. They were in on it a narrative akin to Operation Northwoods mock vicsims and mock family members. Look up Mrs, Hoagland laughing on 9/11.

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I get that. Not going to change anyone's mind on the internet with my anecdotal evidence but... I also know people who actually died on 9/11, at least one on a plane out of Boston and I think and the other I don't 100% remember.

I'm sure one doesn't get pushed to the fore of the narrative without being well controlled but it does give me different questions than others.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah, not believable sorry. He or she was probably Part of the ruse. And was paid handsomely for her well planned out participation, upwards of a million dollars if not more. I've exposed so many passengers it is not plausible that the anonymous person you refer to is credible. Name him ir her. Until then I count you as a liar or someone lied to you, or the person you refer to was part of the ruse and has a carefully created alias.

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

You're a faggot who brings down the pyramid of discussion, you fucking faggot.

I know people who died on 9/11 and you're a shill asshole.

/u/magnora7 ban him or ban me

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

/u/magnora7 hmmmm. Maybe you should at least tell me who they were. Until then i don't believe you knew people who died on the drone planes. In fact I've met on the internet hundreds of people who knew someone who died on the planes.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, aren't you a user on 4chan.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Anyone who denies Zionist or neocon involvement or disregards PNAC, Securing the Realm doc., DPG docs., or Terrorism as a National Policy article, written by Zionists, are controlled oppositions. Also, anyone connevted to the neotrotskyite neocon Cass Sunstein is a shill. Sunstein implemented what is called cognitive infiltration directed at 9/11 truth. He said in plain english that we must infiltrate 9/11 truth and implant agents to control the narrative and lead it astray.

The Nuke, no planes, space lasers, DEW weapon narratives are likely a form of this. Nobody seems to talk about the Drone theory though whoch based on declassified documents seems the most likely.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Roth is a shill, I think, from what I read of him and some of his tweets he seems like a gatekeeper. Lift the Viel, or Mr. Cat Tower is also a shill whose dad works at the UN and NASA. He was an actor for quite sometime too like every other conspiracy theorist shill.

Roth works with Robbie Martin. I think they are better than most but still scuff at the idea that Zionism was the cause. They are very particular with what they can and cannot say.

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

wait, roth is a she... is there another roth you are confusing her with?

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was thinking of someone else, who has the last name as Roth. As for her book, yeah, she puts in a lot of disinformation, and letrollforums has exposed her as a government agent. Her family is filled with intelligence spooks. I believe her goal was to infiltrate the researchers who were exposing the passengers and plane psyop. She took control of that narrative and wrote a in her own words, "fictional book" to spread misinfo and disinformation.

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Why send a missile when you already have it wired for demolition and you have a plane flying into it?

exactly. further, why send even a plane then?

https://www.brighteon.com/5835212290001

The 9/11 hijackers are alive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9kEwQud4Ek

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It wasn't a missile. It was a drone made to look like a passenger jet. Remote guided into a beacon. They might have planted a bomb on the plane to detonate upon contact with facade. Nobody died via the planes. They were all vicsims for the most part from research and the particpants were paid a handsome amount of money. Millions in fact to stay quite because they were in on it. Researchers have already discovered these frauds. The plane aspect was very much the same sort of psyop you see in these smith mundt modernization act psyop shootings. There was an aspect of fakery and fraud. Or just read Operation Northwoods that basically tells you what they did on 9/11.

Your first goal would be to find out if the planes existed, who were the passengers if any, do they exist, are there any anomalies (thousands), flight radar, etc.

Clearly, two of the planes existed on flight radar but air traffic control was completely confused because of the various exercises going on at the same time, all carefully orchestrated this allowed at least two of the planes, either in flight or not to land at an undisclosed military base and exchange transponders midair in place of a reinforced commerical airliner remote guided into a beacon.