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[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

you forgot to supply evidence supporting your claim paris being a liar

edit: if you take a quick look, you will see there are other sources listed, Karl Dietrich Bracher, Konrad Heiden etc so you can't dismiss it until it is proven they are all wrong.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

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I cannot dismiss it, but certainly I cannot say that a Jesuit wrote it completely. Nobody claims that except Zionist and diamond dealer, and flat Earth PSYOP pusher Eric Jon Phelps and Edmond Paris.

He was a former Catholic, which means he could have retained parts of his belief system, or maybe not. so instead we must focus on the person.

The role played by Stempfle in the creation of Hitler's political confession Mein Kampf is controversial in historical research and has not yet been definitively clarified.

And yet, here is Paris, who sells his book in the largest Freemasonic lodge in the world telling us a Jesuit wrote the entire book without any footnote. Look at the addressin the back of the book, which I have, it is in the freemasonic lodge in Paris.

And yet, he never was a Jesuit:

Stempfle entered the Catholic Order of the Poor Hermits of Saint Jerome as a young man. [3] On the other hand, as Lapomarda has shown, the membership of the Jesuit Order, which is often attributed to him in literature, is a mistake on the part of the authors concerned, which, even contemporaries of Stempfles, often underwent and, according to Plöckinger, " made fun of it". Due to a lack of members, the Hieronymite Order was later dissolved. Stempfle himself no longer wore religious costume from about 1923 and no longer held priestly functions, but was still referred to by confidants and acquaintances as "Father Stempfle". For this reason, Stempfle often still figures as a father in literature, when we talk about the years 1923 to 1934, for which this title is strictly no longer true. Helmut Heiber even refers to him – as the only author and probably false – as a prelate.

(Vincent A. Lapomarda: The Jesuits and the Third Reich, 1989, S. 36.)

(Othmar Plöckinger: Geschichte eines Buches. Adolf Hitlers "Mein Kampf" 1922-1945, S. 134.)

(Helmut Heiber: Adolf Hitler. Eine Biographie, 1960, S. 47.)

Konrad Heiden, NEVER CLAIMS, a Jesuit wrote Mein Kampf but instead edited and changed some passages of it, not paragraphs and not chapters and certainly not the whole thing. Which means Hitler was probably in full accordance of these facts.

...some changes to the original text and even rewrote some passages completely.

The renegade National Socialist Otto Strasser, Hitler's enemy reported in his 1942 book Hitler and I, published in Exile in The United States, that Stempfle had worked for months to organize the thoughts expressed in the manuscript on Mein Kampf. In addition, he put into the world the legend that Hitler had Stempfle assassinated because of his corrections to the book. This note was later taken up by the English Hitler biographer Alan Bullock. In his reflection on Hitler's vita, he stated that Stempfle had "stylistically cleaned" Hitler's manuscript (pruned) and rewritten it in parts. [23] In his wide-ranging study of the history of Mein Kampf, Othmar Plöckinger proves that over the years numerous authors took up Bullock's claim and thus spread his view of Stempfle's role in the creation of Mein Kampf.

But still not proof, all claims and it comes straight from the mouth of one of Hitler's rivals.

Harry Schulze-Wilde went so far as to attribute to Stempfle the merit that he had rewritten Mein Kampf into a "somewhat understandable German". Riemeck claims that Stempfle, together with Josef Czerny, tried to bring some order to the thoughts in Hitler's book by giving structure to the promptings wildly thrown together by Hitler, as well as grammar and orthography of the corrected the manuscript.

This seems far more likely, because he was an editor afterall.

Kern points out that Stempfle, like the other "repeatedly mentioned co-authors" of Mein Kampf, had nothing to do with the writing of the book. In contrast to this "legend", Stempfle's role was limited exclusively to "stylistic corrections". [27] Ernst Nolte agrees and also attributes Stempfle only to corrective work on Hitler's original text. [28]

Werner Maser quotes Hermann Hammer, who claimed in a study in 1956 that "Father Bernhard Stempfle [...] however, Ilse Hess, the wife of Rudolf Hess, wrote to him in 1965 that neither Stempfle nor Karl Haushofer had collaborated on the Hitler book, but that she and her husband had "purely stylistically"

So, Heiden, never claims a Jesuit nor Stempfle wrote Mein Kampf. Heiden was a Jewish Socialist, left-wing hournalist, he was vocally against National Socialism and Hitler. Heiden belonged to nearly all the groups least liked by Hitler, and realized as much; soon after the accession of the Hitler government, he wisely saw fit to leave a Germany where he was no longer welcome. It is therefore no surprise that he is very hostile to the subject of his biography, for both political and personal reasons.

Only rarely does he list his sources, which makes his account problematic for the critical historian to use; while many of his stories are not inherently implausible, others have a touch of the fantastic to them, and some are demonstrably erroneous rumors. (For example, his frivolously speculative sections on der Führer's sex life -- A perennial favorite of popular modern historians.) On the other hand, he does on occasion quote interesting primary-source documents, among them a private letter by serving Corporal Adolf Hitler (in World War I) to a pre-war acquaintance in Munich, describing the heavy fighting he has seen. A real treat back then, although nowadays such documents are also available elsewhere (for example, in Werner Maser's published sample of Hitler's private writings).

As was probably inevitable, given his limited sources and personal biases, Heiden's image of the German dictator was in many ways incomplete, and in some severely mistaken. So, for example, he subscribed to the then-common idea of Hitler as a mere power-hungry demagogue, whose politics were largely opportunistic and lacking in conviction. (Subsequent inquiry has entirely reversed this view.) He also imagined Hitler as a sort of split personality in his earlier works, though here that theory is toned down. Moreover, Heiden's own Marxian conceptions strongly color his political analysis of the rise of Hitler's movement. And of course, this book's limited scope by itself precludes any real study of Hitler as leader of Germany, as opposed to leader of the opposition.


As for Karl Dietrich Bracher in the book - The German Dictatorship. Origin, structure, consequences of National Socialism, 1979, p. 139.

Bracher assumes that Stempfle was killed on June 30 for;

"an overly confidential service" to Hitler.

It is a claim without any proof or evidence.


Among other things, statements by Hitler's adjutant Julius Schaub and his body photographer Heinrich Hoffmann from the post-war period speak for Hitler's non-involvement in the death of Stempfle: Schaub explained about an interrogation by IfZ employee Franz Schaubs on July 26, 1951, that "among those murdered in Munich whose death Hitler most regretted , [...] the former pastor Stempfle was to be mentioned in particular, with whom Hitler was together almost daily."[52] Hoffmann wrote in his memoirs: "When I killed Hitler at the time of Hitler's death, he wrote in his memoirs: "When I killed Hitler in the past, He was a member of the former pastor Stempfle. first time after the catastrophe, he grabbed me by the arm and complained with deep shock: "What do you say, Hoffmann, these pigs also killed my good Father Stempfle!" Later, when I asked about the connection between the tragedy, Hitler cut me off the speech with a brusque hand gesture: "No more word about it!" he said in a tone that did not tolerate any contradiction. It has remained so throughout the years..."

Bruno Brehm blames the Munich city councillor Christian Weber for the murder of Stempfle and refers to the polemics of Stempfle against Weber, who ran a brothel in Munich's Senefelderstraße, which Stempfle considered unworthy of an "old fighter" and that is why he mocked Weber as a "Senefeld marshal". Weber had taken scares badly and used the june 30 murder wave as an opportunity to settle his personal bill with Stempfle. According to this, Stempfle was placed on the death list of the Munich execution squads on his own initiative by Weber and without Hitler's intervention. [54] The same view can be found in Wilhelm Hoegner.


In conclusion, a Jesuit did NOT WRITE Mein Kampf, not even a passage. Little evidence exists to suggests Stempfle wrote Mein Kampf, some evidence suggests he edited parts of it, and fixed it up, as he was an editor afterall.

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I cannot dismiss it, but certainly I cannot say that a Jesuit wrote it completely. Nobody claims that except Zionist and diamond dealer, and flat Earth PSYOP pusher Eric Jon Phelps and Edmond Paris.

no source for another one of your unsubstantiated claims. you keep doing this.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

OMG, jsut google Phelps as a diamodn dealer. I gave you all the sources in other comments. I debunked that Stempfle was a Jesuit. You keep claiming he was, he was not. Just like you claim Mona, who went to a Jesuit membership school somehow is a Jesuit.