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[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Yes, by Edmond Paris, a liar who didn't footnote this claim. Translate this section:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Stempfle

For some reason english wikipedia prevents editors from puting these sections in. It is in German.

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

you forgot to supply evidence supporting your claim paris being a liar

edit: if you take a quick look, you will see there are other sources listed, Karl Dietrich Bracher, Konrad Heiden etc so you can't dismiss it until it is proven they are all wrong.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The infamous anti-National Socialist propagandist Konrad Heiden, Jewish, also suggested in his venomous biographies of Hitler, published in 1932 and 1936, that Hitler was of Jewish descent. Although these books were highly regarded in circles hostile to the Movement, this one lie was correctly deemed too unlikely to be taken seriously and was generally dismissed even today.

However, after the war he wrote a detailed article in Life magazine providing step-by-step details of how the Nuremberg defendants were being tortured by the Allies into confessing, and contrasting the Soviet methods of torture (psychological) with the U.S. methods (physical brutality).

In its June 20, 1949 edition, Life magazine published a superbly written article by the German-born Jewish writer, and early Hitler biographer, Konrad Heiden, about the memoirs of Goebbels' underlining Hans Fritzsche. Heiden concentrates on how Fritzsche detailed his psychological torture by the Soviets, being forced to sign a fraudulent confession, and then being raced off to be tried at the big Nuremberg trial, which ended up acquitting him.

The full article can be read here:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=cU4EAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA91&dq=%22the%20remarkable%20case%20of%20Hans%20Fritzsche%22&pg=PA91#v=onepage&q=%22the%20remarkable%20case%20of%20Hans%20Fritzsche%22&f=false

[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

The infamous anti-National Socialist propagandist Konrad Heiden, Jewish

infamous how and why?

so he was against the nazis as a jew? and you are holding this against him? why?

that Hitler was of Jewish descent

so? what if he was right? we all know about hitler possibly being a rotschild bastard. and the rothschilds are jews of course. hitler being a rothschild spawn makes perfect sense.

Movement

and by the movement you mean the what?

this one lie was correctly deemed too unlikely to be taken seriously and was generally dismissed even today.

what makes you say that?

how is heidens fritzsche article relevant here again?

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm not holding it against him. I'm telling you that because of this and his marxist leanings he did not have the objectivity that other historical researchers and authors might have.

so? what if he was right? we all know about hitler possibly being a rotschild bastard. and the rothschilds are jews of course. hitler being a rothschild spawn makes perfect sense.

No proof exists that Hitler was Jewish in full, nor that he was somehow a Rothschild bastard. And it is Zionists who push this myth. As for him being a Rothschild agent, the only one claiming that is the book by pseudonym Sydney Warburg and even in that book he says only rotten Jewish bankers funded Hitler without proof.

Poole and other researchers looking through actual Nazi and Soviet archives have proven that Zionists funded DAP before Hitler, but nowhere close to the other parties in Germany. Must of Hitler's money came from his book, a few German industrialists, who gave campaign contributions to other parties as well because they were quite unsure of Hitler considering his many socialist policies that attacked capitalism, as well as membership contributions in the millions.

Sutton's book is based on Sydney Warburgs book, and even then Sutton neve claims Hitler was backed by the Bushes or Rothschild agents. I nfact, he actually claims, despite him not actually looking in German archives that Hitler was largely grassroots and much of the moeny came from rural folks, the middle class and membership dues.

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    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I can't imagine that. But would it have happened even if Hitler never existed, or if the Social democrates won in Germany? Would Stalin take over all of Europe? I'd imagine, in this case too, the western powers would continue to fight Stalin, no?

    I don't think Hitler particularly wanted war, but I think all powers were fighting among themselves for geopolitical reasons.

    Why do you think the war was fomented? Was there a secret reason for its fomenting?

    The Sydney Warburg story I guess is plausible but it is largely anonymous and hard to prove.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    If I had had the slightest inkling of this gigantic Red Army assemblage I would never have taken the decision to attack.” ~ Hitler

    So, I read that many within the Nazi party tried to go against the best interests of Hitler, no? And this was one reason, among others that Germany lost.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Alios Schicgrubber? THe Red Symphony story is quite possible the more I research this side of Hitler.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    The conspiracy movement and Zionist movement make these huge claims and they are promoted by organizations as truth, when there's no proof for any of them. If you saysfor certainty Hitler was a Rothschild agent, when he closed down many of the Banks and even jailed a Rothschild becuase of their law which made profiteering and usury a criminal offense or that Hitler was Jewish or that Stempfle was a Jesuit (he was not) who wrote Mein Kampf, back the claim up. I have not found any proof of these claims, and much to the contrary.

    [–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    for the record i wrote staempfle was a catholic, not jesuit.

    wikipedia disgrees with you on staempfle and i will go with what is there.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes, sorry, Paris suggests this is fact, which isn't true.