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[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

The infamous anti-National Socialist propagandist Konrad Heiden, Jewish

infamous how and why?

so he was against the nazis as a jew? and you are holding this against him? why?

that Hitler was of Jewish descent

so? what if he was right? we all know about hitler possibly being a rotschild bastard. and the rothschilds are jews of course. hitler being a rothschild spawn makes perfect sense.

Movement

and by the movement you mean the what?

this one lie was correctly deemed too unlikely to be taken seriously and was generally dismissed even today.

what makes you say that?

how is heidens fritzsche article relevant here again?

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm not holding it against him. I'm telling you that because of this and his marxist leanings he did not have the objectivity that other historical researchers and authors might have.

so? what if he was right? we all know about hitler possibly being a rotschild bastard. and the rothschilds are jews of course. hitler being a rothschild spawn makes perfect sense.

No proof exists that Hitler was Jewish in full, nor that he was somehow a Rothschild bastard. And it is Zionists who push this myth. As for him being a Rothschild agent, the only one claiming that is the book by pseudonym Sydney Warburg and even in that book he says only rotten Jewish bankers funded Hitler without proof.

Poole and other researchers looking through actual Nazi and Soviet archives have proven that Zionists funded DAP before Hitler, but nowhere close to the other parties in Germany. Must of Hitler's money came from his book, a few German industrialists, who gave campaign contributions to other parties as well because they were quite unsure of Hitler considering his many socialist policies that attacked capitalism, as well as membership contributions in the millions.

Sutton's book is based on Sydney Warburgs book, and even then Sutton neve claims Hitler was backed by the Bushes or Rothschild agents. I nfact, he actually claims, despite him not actually looking in German archives that Hitler was largely grassroots and much of the moeny came from rural folks, the middle class and membership dues.

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    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I can't imagine that. But would it have happened even if Hitler never existed, or if the Social democrates won in Germany? Would Stalin take over all of Europe? I'd imagine, in this case too, the western powers would continue to fight Stalin, no?

    I don't think Hitler particularly wanted war, but I think all powers were fighting among themselves for geopolitical reasons.

    Why do you think the war was fomented? Was there a secret reason for its fomenting?

    The Sydney Warburg story I guess is plausible but it is largely anonymous and hard to prove.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    If I had had the slightest inkling of this gigantic Red Army assemblage I would never have taken the decision to attack.” ~ Hitler

    So, I read that many within the Nazi party tried to go against the best interests of Hitler, no? And this was one reason, among others that Germany lost.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Alios Schicgrubber? THe Red Symphony story is quite possible the more I research this side of Hitler.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    The conspiracy movement and Zionist movement make these huge claims and they are promoted by organizations as truth, when there's no proof for any of them. If you saysfor certainty Hitler was a Rothschild agent, when he closed down many of the Banks and even jailed a Rothschild becuase of their law which made profiteering and usury a criminal offense or that Hitler was Jewish or that Stempfle was a Jesuit (he was not) who wrote Mein Kampf, back the claim up. I have not found any proof of these claims, and much to the contrary.

    [–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    for the record i wrote staempfle was a catholic, not jesuit.

    wikipedia disgrees with you on staempfle and i will go with what is there.

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes, sorry, Paris suggests this is fact, which isn't true.