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[–]BISH 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I have a solution that protects freedom for r first two categories. I'm a different legal person.

I don't have civil rights, as civil laws cannot be applied to me under non-contractual circumstance. The civil ls what is used to impose most of the penalties in life that involve law. Civil law is the law of the city.
American common law is the law os the land, and still applies to my legal personality..

The benefits are incomparable. Anything that doesn't involve changing political status at the top of the chain, is shadowboxing. Unsustainable.

[–]EddieC[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I have a solution that protects freedom for r first two categories. I'm a different legal person.

If it is 'US National' (as opposed to 'US Citizen') that you are referring to - well, American Samoans have the same legal status.
 
Q: What does the 'US National' legal status do for them?
 
Cut and paste this link to your browser:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Samoa#:~:text=Many%20residents%20rely%20on%20transfer%20payments%20from%20relatives%20living%20on%20the%20mainland%20or%20from%20federal%20subsidies.%5B121%5D
 

[–]BISH 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

If it is 'US National' (as opposed to 'US Citizen') that you are referring to - well, American Samoans have the same legal status.

Us Samoans are non-citizen nationals. That are distinctly different political status. They receive passports from the state dept, that say "not a US citizen" on them.

American Samoa and Swains Island are unique in that retain their natural rights from their land. They are not born on US soil, do that are not 14 th amendment citizens. Those two locations are the only unincorporated areas in the US. Specifically for this reason.

In fact, their status "non-citizen national" was created to hide the status of "US Nationals, who are not citizens".

The non-citizen national status was created to hide the US national status (formerly labeled as a state citizen).

I have a recently issued passport from the US state Dept.

It's identical to the normal US passports, because they don't want to hand out documents that can be waved in front of others that prove the difference in status.

This status is hidden. Understandably so. If the public ever realizes that been fraudulently tricked into voluntary servitude, and then there will be blood in the streets.

I sure you that they are scared to death of people finding out about this. Particularly, because it's so easy to cancel the servitude contact.

They are no downsides, as a national can find a discrimination suit, because they've legally made the statuses equal.

The national status is by far the more equal status. The best thing ever.

[–]EddieC[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This status is hidden. Understandably so. If the public ever realizes that been fraudulently tricked into voluntary servitude, and then there will be blood in the streets.

I sure you that they are scared to death of people finding out about this. Particularly, because it's so easy to cancel the servitude contact.

They are no downsides, as a national can find a discrimination suit, because they've legally made the statuses equal.

The national status is by far the more equal status. The best thing ever.

I did a quick check online and it appears that "they" already have the counter-narrative in place:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sovereign+citizens
e.g. this 6 min video from "Law & Crime Network"

[–]BISH 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Ha! Yeah. I know.

There's no such thing as a sovereign citizen. That's not a real political status. It's made up bullshit.

But there is a US national status, and infact, per the INA "all US citizens are US nationals".

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/us-citizenship/Certificates-Non-Citizen-Nationality.html

As defined by the INA, all U.S. citizens are U.S. nationals but only a relatively small number of persons acquire U.S. nationality without becoming U.S. citizens.

The very last paragraph on the page includes the oath (or sworn affidavit statement) that you need to make to become a national who is not a citizen...

Section 302 of Public Law 94 - 241:.

Any person who becomes a citizen of the United States solely by virtue of the provisions in Section 301 [applying to those born in or residing in the Northern Mariana Islands] may within six months after the effective date of that Section or within six months after reaching the age of 18 years, whichever date is later, become a national but not a citizen of the United States by making a declaration under oath before any court established by the Constitution or laws of the United States or any other court of record in the Commonwealth in the form as follows " I _____ being duly sworn, hereby declare my intention to be a national but not a citizen of the United States."

Note that this is distinct from being a "non-citizen national", which is what the American Samoans are, because they were never citizens to begin with.

However, anyone who nationalizes as a us citizen, can immediately make the oath to be "a us national, but not a citizen".

It's everyone's right to volunteer into, and out of, voluntary citizen servitude. The 13th amendment outlawed involuntary servitude, so they have to honor it. And they do.

[–]EddieC[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There's no such thing as a sovereign citizen. That's not a real political status. It's made up bullshit.

The Political Kayfabe, the Major Event PsyOps, the daily news/drama they traumatize people with, "Social Media", ...
-- pretty much everything is meant to mind control us
 

But there is a US national status, and infact, per the INA "all US citizens are US nationals".
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/us-citizenship/Certificates-Non-Citizen-Nationality.html

 
Yes, BUT:

  1. What does that legal status really do?
    This link goes a little into it -- scroll down to #6: https://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/Citizenship/CitizensVNationals.htm#:~:text=6.%20Rights%20Lost%20By%20Becoming%20a%20statutory%20%E2%80%9CU.S.%20citizen%E2%80%9D
    But do you see how gun & vehicle ownership "without being registered" can be, nay has already been turned against those doing so from the BS on Youtube?
     
  2. Is it sufficient?
    As you mentioned:
    > I have a solution that protects freedom for r first two categories.
    Yes, so how about the rest?
     

I brought up US Samoans because economic freedom IMO

  • would be less susceptible to controversy
  • would potentially unite the 99%
  • would decenter the 1%
     

And the only way we will have real progress is by having accretive dialogue, not idle chatter on social media, which is part of the Matrix
 

[–]BISH 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm a fan of family guardian, but they are taking a bottom up approach to addressing this issue.

They don't realize we're in the feudal system. For obvious reasons. It's never taught in law school. The feudal system is it only system if law that assigns political status based on where you're born. "Anchor babies" is a obvious example.

Most political hereditament is by blood, so most grandchildren can get European passports if their grandparents immigrated, etc. By blood.

I'm glad to see you're actually looking into this. It's 100% legit, and the deeper you investigate, the more you'll confirm it.

But the best way to learn about this is to put in the time, and listen to this interview. This details the top-down approach, which cannot be refuted by those in the know. This is something that is taught to judges. I know from personal experience.

DEANNA SPINGOLA - ROGER SAYLES - HOW AND WHY CLAIM AMERICAN NATIONAL STATUS - 02-06-21

Roger is my teacher. He knows it better than anyone (with the exception of certain denizens of the City of London) and he goes into detail about the nuanced history of it all. A detailed beginner course. I've listened to it again probably 20 times.

It's crucial to understand how we ended up in this situation, so you can understand how this affidavit can unravel the bonds of voluntary servitude. That's the first step. Sever the bonds of servitude.

The interview is 2.5 hrs long, but that's trivial violated to the benefits of understanding this material.
When you internalize the truth of what happened, and how it shapes our everyday reality.
You can't defend yourself is you don't know how you're being attacked, or why they can do what they do.

[–]EddieC[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You side stepped my questions, again
 
My position is outlined in this post
 

You can't defend yourself is you don't know how you're being attacked, or why they can do what they do.

We need to address usurpation at the root - in our own mind - and as broadly as possible - covering all areas - the areas listed in the post is not exclusive.