Western liberalism has no answer for the rising Eurasian powers that take pride in their culture, take pride in their history and their roots; what is now being termed "civilizational states". Turkey is at the forefront of this new geopolitical dynamic that will shake the liberal West to its core.

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Fear the other video and he is selling some really cool new t-shirts for your follower collection. If the Turkish people follow this "civilization states" mob mentality it is no different than every other country/religion garnering the local support. How is this more dangerous than the world we already live in? Puff piece to sell shirts.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Seriously? A well reasoned piece and all you can come back with is "MUH SHURTZ"?

Would you like to engage wirh any of the ideas presented?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't appreciate the video as much as you do. I find his set up limited because all nations use pride of origins as a way to garner support and FOLLOWERS...just like buying his t shirts.

Did you really not see how I deal with the subject matter in the first comment? My opinion is rather curt by tone, yet I mentioned his main point behind the entire video as I did in the second sentence in this comment. I didn't negate any of his data, just the premise of his presentation and the message is rather shallow by my interpretation. Why single out Turkey when you can pick any country in the world to discuss how some leaders garner support and followers? Because Islam is the meal of the day?

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Dismissing the entire thing as an attempt to sell T-shirts is disingenuous and smacks of the SJW technique of refusing to engage with arguments.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Chipit, we are having the discussion or argument if you prefer write now, pun intended. What is it in this video's message you are so attached to that my opinions are being negated by the same mechanism you accuse me using. Yet, our "argument" seems to to be written in each comment we continue posting. I added the quip "selling T-shirts" as a poke at this particular video. It was added within the data I pointed out already and is part of my argument we are continuing to have that you accuse me of not having. I apologize for the poking.

I appreciate the history he points out supporting his message. I appreciate the hard work going into creating a quality video...he has done his work. Yet, the totality of the message is not so appreciated by my sense abilities and sensibilities.

Do I smack as a SJW? Do I want to know the answer? I will discuss this video as long you continue to comment with me. Please, point out why it is so great and not simply point out I was curt with my opinions and threw a cheep poke at its message...not you are the creator of said video.

Lettuce discuss and not create SJWs out of both of us.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Went the mullahs and their followers in Turkey start respecting it's pre Islamic history from which most of its culture is descended I might take this stuff more seriously.