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[–]beermeem 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

To be blunt yet obviously over-generalizing, China and the Chinese are extremely racist. So are the Japanese and the Koreans. It's a very different culture there. The lighter skinned are exceptionally racist against the darker skinned. For whatever reason, they also tend to have the wealth to enforce their prejudices. I had a Cambodian friend who "hated" her dark skin. There's tons of products for lightening your skin that are very popular.

I once sat a table with guys from several different countries across China and Southeast Asia and they were all just openly racist against each other and laughing about it. None of them knew each other so it wasn't like they were friends or something. It was the kind of stuff that would have started a fight in America.

Because it's a much more complex dynamic and because of the greater mono-racial construct of each country, racism is far more accepted. It's not like one race was brought over in ships and enslaved for 400 years before being systematically re-enslaved by other means. So it has a different connotation in most people's minds. America is a very mature country that has a self-awareness and works on its many problems. People vastly under-rate this aspect of America.

The Chinese have a derogatory for American social justice warriors, "baizou." I love to use it to needle my friends with SJW tendencies. The differences in cultures is something we can all learn from.

[–]Canbot 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

they were all just openly racist against each other and laughing about it.

That is the way it should be. This is something we should admire. It is not normal the way snowflakes can't take any criticism in America. Literally everything is called racist. You literally can't even bring up statistical facts without some liberal throwing a tantrum. That is no way to live. That leaves no room for intellectual discussion. It basically "accept all our bullshit claims or you are racist".

[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

yup

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's called: DEMORALIZATION. Yuri Bezmenov explained this. It would come to America from Russia.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Since Yuri isn't here perhaps you could explain what you are talking about.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not Jesus, but here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

thank you for sharing, I've always found this interesting. I've read about this a lot, I'm not sure if "baizou" is also the term for it or if there is another one, but they also have one for basically self-hating whites. I understand where their culture is basically at (at least I thought so), what I don't get is: I thought China and Africa were getting along well as foreign relations go (even if China is faking it and taking advantage of Africa), with Africa sharing their resources and China sharing their technology. The "mutually beneficial deal". I've literally seen quotes in articles with China's officials saying Africa is an important ally, and this isn't how you treat an "ally's" citizens staying or studying abroad in your home country..

Even despite this "deal" they have, they're willing to treat Africans like this still?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2019/10/03/what-china-is-really-up-to-in-africa/#640466475930

"China is now Africa’s biggest trade partner, with Sino-African trade topping $200 billion per year. According to McKinsey, over 10,000 Chinese-owned firms are currently operating throughout the African continent, and the value of Chinese business there since 2005 amounts to more than $2 trillion, with $300 billion in investment currently on the table. Africa has also eclipsed Asia as the largest market for China’s overseas construction contracts. To keep this momentum building, Beijing recently announced a $1 billion Belt and Road Africa infrastructure development fund and, in 2018, a whopping $60 billion African aid package, so expect Africa to continuing swaying to the east as economic ties with China become more numerous and robust.

As Chinese President Xi Jinping once pointed out, “Inadequate infrastructure is believed to be the biggest bottleneck to Africa’s development.” Collectively, the countries of Africa would need to spend $130-170 billion per year to meet their infrastructure needs, but, according to the African Development Bank, they are coming up $68-$108 billion short. Closing Africa’s infrastructure gap has been the obsession of multiple waves of colonists, and China is the next in line to reach into the heart of the continent with railroads, highways, and airports.

“Europeans built infrastructure in Africa at the turn of the century, purportedly also for local economic development, but in essence the projects were used for natural resource extraction. The predecessor of both the Nairobi-Mombasa and Addis Ababa-Djibouti railways can be categorized as such. Both connect inland regions with mineral deposits with major ports on the Indian Ocean,” wrote Xiaochen Su on The Diplomat. Infrastructure is what Africa needs most and infrastructure is what China is most equipped to provide.

Is this just a matter of them taking over/taking advantage of/raping Africa and not giving a fuq about Africa's people? Is this propaganda to make us hate China? Why would China spit on this opportunity (or "deal") they've already so heavily invested in? Maybe I'm reading into it 2 much, idk. Just seemed so random.

[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

They went into africa thinking they could develop it and have a mutually beneficial relationship. They learned that in Africa nearly everyone you employ tries to steal from you at every turn. No one does an honest days work. So they bring in Chinese workers and now they are called racist for not hiring locals. Even with a chinese work force they get robbed by locals, the infrastructure they build gets stripped of pipes if not guarded etc.

The narrative in the west that racism is based on skin color is a full on lie. The narrative that Africa is what it is because of foreigners is a lie.

It is unfortunate that good people get a bad rap from bad people in thier group. But denying that this bad rap comes from the actions of people in these groups is ignorant. Saying that the people who acknowledge the problems with these groups are at fault and not the people in these groups who cause the problems is bat shit, ass backwards, insane.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No one does an honest days work.

Lol. Cool generalization fallacy.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not a fallacy is an approximation. Claiming it is a fallacy implies that it has no validity, which is untrue. You can measure the productivity of African workers and the Chinese workers who replaced them and prove there is a huge difference. Why do leftists always bullshit about this fact?

[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The ruling Party of China cannot let go. Much like North Korea, they are personally invested. If they fail, they die. Unlike Trump, the are not great leaders.

They exist under the thumb of Gates and Soros. In short, they got fucked.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And Trump, Kushner don't?

[–]H3v8 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I thought China and Africa were getting along well as foreign relations go

Despite that, the thought of interracial families is not pleasant to Chinese. They wouldn't mind having good foreign relations as long as they are apart.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, that makes complete sense (as far as their culture goes), I just didn't realize they actually acted this way openly to black people as well. I thought it was more of a "known/open-cultural-secret" that didn't impact day-to-day interactions, but would impact things like relationships and maybe even businesses or investments.

I didn't realize the treatment of the common/random African/black person was affected like this as well. It honestly seemed very random & like news articles across all spectrums (such as alternative/underground news, to MSM, left/right), began reporting on how China was "targeting black people" in various ways (check the links I linked to below) out of nowhere all of the sudden starting 2 weeks ago. The media is making it seem like a random racist campaign on China's end without giving cultural context because that doesn't fit america's world view I guess.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree, the Chinese are very racist and nationalistic.

Also, Jesus said: Never take offense. Woe to those who take offense. Offense is a sin and we must not take offense to the flesh like SJW's do.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (9 children)

The ending shot is literally a framed photo of an elephant's asshole next to an African child lol, they're side-by-side, what the fuck?

Edit:

More examples:

"'If you're black you can't go out': Africans in China face racism in Covid-19 crackdown"

https://www.france24.com/en/20200411-if-you-re-black-you-can-t-go-out-africans-in-china-face-racism-in-covid-19-crackdown

"‘No blacks’: Evicted, harassed and targeted in China for their race amid coronavirus"

https://www.union-bulletin.com/news/world/no-blacks-evicted-harassed-and-targeted-in-china-for-their-race-amid-coronavirus/article_7c29f1a0-d9e5-5f70-95aa-4d018d93c109.html

"‘Black People Are Not Allowed’: Reports Of Discrimination After Chinese City Orders Mandatory Quarantine For African Residents"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandrasternlicht/2020/04/13/black-people-are-not-allowed-reports-of-discrimination-after-chinese-city-orders-mandatory-quarantine-for-african-residents/#475a90b05479

"China’s Racism Is Wrecking Its Success in Africa"

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/04/15/chinas-racism-is-wrecking-its-success-in-africa/

"McDonald’s refused to serve black people in China and blamed coronavirus"

https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/14/mcdonalds-refused-serve-black-people-china-blamed-coronavirus-12556726/

"‘No blacks’: African migrants kicked out of homes and banned from shops in Guangzhou, China"

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/no-blacks-african-migrants-kicked-out-of-homes-and-banned-from-shops-in-guangzhou-china-b9p0z0ggt

[–]Tom_Bombadil 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

The ending shot is literally a framed photo of an elephant's asshole next to an African child lol, they're side-by-side, what the fuck?

I think it's an elephant eye. There's no tail.

Also, /u/beermeem is correct about the Chinese racism. The same applies to South Korea, and most others of the region.

Asians (in the region) are generally somewhat racist about other Asian ethnicities.

Plenty of negative bias to go around...

In fairness, Europe was quite racist until recently. English hated the Irish, and French, etc.
The concept of "whiteness" is a modern development.

[–]Canbot 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The concept of white as a group was created to pit whites against minorities. Pitting nationalities against each other is untenable. With just two groups to focus on (POC and white) the elite can easily hammer us with a constant divisive narrative that keeps us fighting each other and not causing any trouble for them.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've never read any specific sources that prove that, but I've heard it quite a bit.

The US military was mostly white during ww2, and there were black military units. So whiteness has been around for awhile.

I agree that it has been used to create social division in an ever-increasing way.

The US is intentionally being internally dismantled. Socially, and otherwise.

[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You do make a good point about racial segregation during WW2. I may have over reached on how much "white as a group" was a new construct. But prior to the american melting pot I don't think whiteness was a thing. A Frenchman and a Spaniard had no loyalty to each other even if they lived a few hundred feet and across a border from one another.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

We're in complete agreement that certain groups are aggressively pushing the racial divide narrative to break up the various groups.

People who should otherwise be allies.

[–]DffrntDrmmr 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The Russian subversion strategy of formenting disharmony is real and should not be overlooked. Analysis of their efforts in social media found racial strife to be their primary objective.

Their operations have expanded to other countries and are better hidden.

[–]Canbot 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not the Russians, it is our own media. It is literally taught in our schools. We no longer teach about how great men advanced society incrementally through innovation while struggling with all kinds of personal problems. Instead we teach that all success is the result of predetermined variables like your skin color, how wealthy your parents are, etc. We are brainwashed with the idea that all success of white people is a result of privileges given to them and stolen from minorities.

We live in the country that invented affirmative action. We literally have hundreds of programs for the sole benefit of a minority population. That is unheard of in any other country. After all, why should any county have special laws to priviledge a minority of its citizens? Yet the average person is literally brainwashed to believe the exact opposite, that this minority population with all these special privileges is being oppressed. That doesn't come from Russians.

The real reason for disparities in success between groups comes from disparities in IQ. Instead of acknowledging this we deny it completely and substitute a fabricated excuse of white racism against minorities. This white racism narrative fuels more racial hatred than anything else could.

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

winning comment

NoIrishNeedApply

[–]DffrntDrmmr 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

a framed photo of an elephant's asshole next to an African

Africans (and their American descendants) are assholes everywhere they go.

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    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

    ok, ur right, art is in the eye of the beholder.. but what about everything else in my comment?

    lmao seriously, i don't understand why they're fucking with black ppl on a large scale out of no where.. i missed the memo.

    [–]RuckFeddit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    They've always been incredibly racist. It just suits the narrative to bring it to light now, as they are trying to stoke war with China, as opposed to before, when they were implying only white people are racist.

    [–]dashiefan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    What the fuck? Is this real?

    [–]daikuji 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    they face racism in america too