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[–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The media environment really feels like 2002, just before the Iraq invasion. They are really rattling everyone's cages to try and get us in line to support their war that will make them trillions.

Reddit is almost unreadable anymore, our media is so borked. At least saidit exists

[–]itsaname42 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Absolutely; I was a sophomore in HS for 9/11, and I was one of those teenagers that you mentioned earlier that was fooled into believing that the Afghanistan & Iraq wars were a good idea, thanks to the insane propaganda that was spewed out by the MSM. In my case, those events were the source of my 'red pill' and started my journey down the rabbit hole, but it really saddens me to think that the same thing is happening for a new generation with current events. Of course there is a lot more information available these days exposing the truth, but at the same time the propaganda is being pushed that much harder, and we are starting to see a lot more in the way of censorship as the internet has become more established - yes the truth is out there, but you have to actually go look for it, otherwise all you'll see is BS like the reddit thread you linked. I actually came across that post about half an hour before I found my way here; my reaction to that post was just about the same as yours.

ps: I am really impressed with the site, I saw a post you made about it a couple months ago (right before the domain name change I think) and it has really progressed a lot since then; I made an account this time around and will try to start visiting regularly - Reddit really is in a free fall in a lot of ways, and we really need a good alternative like this - where there isn't a propaganda agenda at the top (and the site doesn't suck like voat)

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Thanks for sharing your story, I imagine many others were 'redpilled' through Iraq and Afghanistan as well. Mine was the D.A.R.E. program, I bought in to that and alienated friends who smoked pot. Then I got to college in a good STEM program and everyone smoked... I realized I'd been lied to about pot. Then I learned about the war on drugs and so on.

In both our stories, we were convinced we were doing something to help humanity, when in fact we were pawns in a larger game that had ulterior motives that diverged from the stated intent. Profit-based motives.

It's interesting to see the internet fall apart like it is now that it's established... I saw someone call it "TV 2.0" now that so much of the content is controlled by the centralized corporate media hierarchy.

Glad you like the site! Happy to see your insightful comment here, and thinkers like you are definitely welcome on saidit.

[–]itsaname42 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Lol... cannabis was actually a pretty big part of my awakening as well, I got to college and all kinds of people were smoking, and actually I became extremely angry about the war on drugs and D.A.R.E. (that program was such a joke, looking back on it now) because of ethical/moral reasons as well as the fact that smoking is the only thing I have ever found that helps to alleviate the utterly debilitating migraines that I get - I have to basically lock myself in a dark quite space for 1-3 days when I get one; smoking doesn't change that, but it does make them much more bearable. Pharmaceuticals, on the other hand, have never done anything for me. It really blew my mind that so many people in the US are locked up for years over this plant. Well... it blew my mind until I learned the exact wording of the 13th Amendment anyway, abolishing slavery except as punishment for a crime. It really is quite the system they have going; between the war on drugs, where they are playing both sides of the field with the CIA bringing them in the country and selling them to fund black ops budgets, while the police confiscate them along with all of the assets of the people (since property is guilty until proven innocent), then throwing the people in jail to fuel the private prison industry and use these 'criminals' for what is effectively slave labor (and the don't even have to pay for room and board costs, since the taxpayers are footing that bill) and all the while big pharma is making insane profits as 'legal' drug pushers with all of the opiates the sell, when in a lot of cases cannabis would be both more effective and less expensive (for a lot of medicines other than opiates as well). Arrg... I could rant about this all day, there are so many corrupt industries that only function the way they do because of marijuana being illegal (petroleum products, paper, alcohol, etc, etc.)

I'm just thankful the internet isn't completely controlled yet; the only way things are going to change is to wake up the sheeple - if the 99.9% would realize how badly we are being screwed by the 0.1% I truly believe we would start to see massive changes overnight. I do think we are starting to get there though, and actually I think that is a factor in why we are seeing such a huge push with Internet censorship and 'fake news', they are trying to make it seem like 'truthers' are a crazy fringe, but it seems like most of the random people I talk to in real life are becoming more and more aware of what is really going on. There is, however, the problem that most of these people believe that they are part of a small minority and that they might be a bit crazy for thinking the way they do - it seems the mainstream propaganda has been fairly effective in that regard. So I think one thing we should start to focus on as a community is not just waking people up, but also to make people aware of how many people out there are already 'awake', because when people think everyone else is going to think they are crazy if they talk about this kinds of stuff it is a big roadblock keeping the 'truth movement' (or whatever you want to call it) in the shadows and out of common public dialog.

Apologies for any typos, on mobile.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I had a VERY similar awakening path as you.

but also to make people aware of how many people out there are already 'awake'

I agree. There are so many awake people who mistakenly think they're alone, an island by themselves, in a sea of people who think otherwise. When in fact, many people feel that exact same way, and are just too afraid to communicate it. Which in turn creates the public appearance that people don't hold that opinion. So we have to each individually, and as a group, overcome our fear of crossing social boundaries and say what we really mean. But when the economy is this bad, people tend to prioritize making money and self-preservation over pushing social boundaries, which is partly why I think the boundaries have shrunk since 2008, because they haven't been challenged, because people on the whole are too scared and have too much to risk.

[–]itsaname42 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think you are exactly right; I don't really have any qualms about expressing my views, and lately it seems more common that people will be hesitant to discuss this kind of stuff at first, at least until I break the ice a bit, but then quite often it's like opening the floodgates; whereas a few years ago people didn't see to feel like the subject was taboo as much, but were a lot more likely to dismiss or ridicule what I was talking about. Although nowadays it seems that people who have never heard about any of it are a lot more likely to listen with an open mind; the public facade of TPTB definitely seems to be cracking.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hadn't quite thought about it that way, but now that you say it I've seen the same kind of trends. It is interesting to see how the public's approach to this type of stuff is evolving, and how the propaganda evolves in response.