New Zealand has gone full police state. They are threatening up to TEN years in prison for even having the video saved on your computer.

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[–]HurricaneHank 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

This heavy censorship is really distressing. It seems to be taking over the whole internet these days.

I don't believe there's some dark conspiracy behind this event, at least not more than basic human nature. I think these events are merely a convenient excuse for what almost every government has been wanting for a long time: to have increased control over the internet. China is leading the way, but western governments want a piece of that action too.

The internet was a wild west not long ago: anything went. If you didn't want to see something, that's great... just don't look. But there is a strong desire to get that horse back into the barn. That personal freedom ethos is under severe pressure now from multiple fronts. I can't even put all the blame at the feet of governments, because they are acting under pressure from their constituents to "clean up the web" and "make it safe". Then you have even more who demand the removal of anything which offends them.

This event is a tragedy on two fronts, IMO. First, because 50 innocent people were killed in cold blood by some racist shit, and second, because of the collateral damage it's doing to online freedom.

[–]Jesus 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The shooter loves China. It's the ideal state he says. How fitting. Yeah, I'm under the opinion that the shooter was helped by agencies .

[–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That's just another suspicious detail about how that all went down.

Not even the Chinese believe that it's an ideal state. It's so over the top that I struggle to accept that he wrote that. The message is beyond dichotomous.

I'm suspending judgment on his alleged political views until we can hear him state them during an interview; assuming he isn't targeted before that can happen.

[–]GOOSE 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The message is beyond dichotomous.

If you read the entire manifesto, it's full of contradictions and crafted statements. I firmly believe that the manifesto was written by the attacker, alone, and that he wrote it purposely to troll and cause as many problems as possible in the aftermath.

I don't think there's some big conspiracy or any crazy shit, it's just this guy wanted to troll almost everyone.

alleged political views

actually, this part of the manifesto was pretty clear, he's an ethno-nationalist and eco-fascist. There's not really much doubt about this. What's annoying is how poorly the media report on it attributing ridiculous motives and other desires when it's literally written down for them.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If you read the entire manifesto, it's full of contradictions and crafted statements.

So, you're suggesting that these contradictions should be ignored?

[–]GOOSE 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No, but you can see through the sarcasm, the memes, the jokes, and ignore those - which form most of the contradictions.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not so sure. Hopefully we'll learn the truth during his trial.