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[–]magnora7 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

What the hell.

What is the deal with the censorship. It'd be one thing if the footage looked super fake and made it look like a hoax, but the footage instead verifies it's real. Why would they want to censor that SOOO badly?

Is it just some vain attempt to limit the influence the killer or something? Why is it ok to show ISIS beheading people on the news, but this has to be censored with a huge fine for even telling people where to get it? Why? What is the motivation?

I just really don't get it.

[–]Icalasari 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The shooter wanted the video to spread to cause chaos and make the divide between political sides wider. He predicted that the media would be drooling to release footage to get views, and he was right

Now it seems like the second part of it is coming to fruition - more division because now governments are cracking down and trying to stop it from spreading even though the cat is already out of the bag. This will only make people want to see it more and distrust the government more, and maybe even cause a decent chunk to see it as a false flag with the government trying to remove the video because of "something they got wrong in production that shows its fakeness"

That killer is disgusting, but he thought this through

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We have to be careful to distinguish between a hoax and a false flag.

Hoax = no one died, it was all actors and theater

false flag = those people definitely really died, but the event was orchestrated by agencies who influenced the killer, maybe arming him and radicalizing him, and the killer may or may not have been in on that fact that it was agencies doing this to him

It seems very very few think this was a hoax, the video makes it pretty clear it was not a hoax. But the manifesto and the way the media is reacting to the video, makes me think it is a false flag. It's just a little too perfect for those looking to expand their power. This guy mentioned basically every cultural touchstone that they want to attack. It's just a little too coincidental. I could be wrong though and he could truly have been acting alone (or with those 2 other people who where apparently arrested at the second mosque with guns and explosives in their car)

[–]Icalasari 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Eh, I still think he was a lone actor just based on how fast media tried to backpedal when they realized they screwed up. Well 'lone actor' in terms of not working with a major group or government - he was WAY too accurate and calm during that video so he had to have had training

I DO think governments are capitalizing on this to try another shot at neutering the internet, however, and the reactions of government after the fact are planned and calculated