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[–]Jesus 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

The shooter loves China. It's the ideal state he says. How fitting. Yeah, I'm under the opinion that the shooter was helped by agencies .

[–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That's just another suspicious detail about how that all went down.

Not even the Chinese believe that it's an ideal state. It's so over the top that I struggle to accept that he wrote that. The message is beyond dichotomous.

I'm suspending judgment on his alleged political views until we can hear him state them during an interview; assuming he isn't targeted before that can happen.

[–]GOOSE 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The message is beyond dichotomous.

If you read the entire manifesto, it's full of contradictions and crafted statements. I firmly believe that the manifesto was written by the attacker, alone, and that he wrote it purposely to troll and cause as many problems as possible in the aftermath.

I don't think there's some big conspiracy or any crazy shit, it's just this guy wanted to troll almost everyone.

alleged political views

actually, this part of the manifesto was pretty clear, he's an ethno-nationalist and eco-fascist. There's not really much doubt about this. What's annoying is how poorly the media report on it attributing ridiculous motives and other desires when it's literally written down for them.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If you read the entire manifesto, it's full of contradictions and crafted statements.

So, you're suggesting that these contradictions should be ignored?

[–]GOOSE 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No, but you can see through the sarcasm, the memes, the jokes, and ignore those - which form most of the contradictions.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not so sure. Hopefully we'll learn the truth during his trial.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Targeted or in on it in kangaroo court appearances.

[–]ABC 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

What makes you think that?

[–]Jesus 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

In his 77 page manifesto. He says he is a Christian and all Christians are his brothers, yet the perfect nationstate for him is China. A country that persecutes Christians.

[–]Troll 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

A lot of what he wrote was straight-up trolling. Spyro the Dragon 3 turned him into an ethnonationalist? He should have said Skyrim, though.

[–]Jesus 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Yeah, when it came to the memes yes. But not entirely, as he does make it clear that the nationalist idealogy of the Chinese, despite on the surface communist and the state itself is ideal to his ideaology. Plus, he was a former communist. Nevertheless, the manifesto probably had help and was written in the perfect way to divide people. It benefits the NZ government and the divide and conquer principle. He made it a little to obvious what his agenda really was.

[–]Troll 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I think these things are indisputable:

1) He was concerned with demographic replacement of the West.

2) He had a particular disliking for Islam.

3) He had a trollish sense of humor (Spyro the Dragon, "subscribe to pewdiepie," citing Candace Owens).

4) He was far-right.

I think the mentioning of the Chinese was mostly to stir the pot, while agreeing with China being mostly ethnically homogeneous. I doubt he cared about other things such as social scores, communism, and whatnot.

As for him being a former communist, well, that was likely when he was younger and that's what the propaganda wants people to be.

I doubt he really had much help with the manifesto -- it wasn't amazingly written. The Unabomber's Manifesto was far more hard-hitting. It's not hard to be far-right and see what motivates the left, a simple conversation with leftists will do the trick.

His motivations were primarily accelerationist and to provoke the left into being more tyrannical. For example, Fabian socialism advocated for incrementalism to avoid upsetting people. His goals were to counter the slow trickle of the leftist utopia that leftists use via brainwashing, social engineering, and censorship. It's like putting the frog into water and having it jump out only when the water's temperature changes too quickly for it to notice.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Or that is the intended narrative.
New Zealand was the only 5 eyes country that hadn't been attacked by a radical demographic.

The motivation seems completely manufactured.

[–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Wait…

Isn't New Zealand a target of Chinese social engineering?

Hmm…

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah. This isn't surprising either. However, the Chinese aren't known for their mass shooting tactics.

Israel is the main purveyor of this style of terrorism.

[–]Reddit_sucks_dick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the Chinese aren't known for their mass shooting tactics

LOL, ever hear of the Cultural Revolution? MILLIONS outright murdered, millions more worked and starved to death. Estimates range from 40 to 60 MILLION, lol.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Or the state and him are in on it, he had help.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Seems suspicious.
I saw that post you have about the arresting cops were training for this type of an event, at the time of the shooting.

This specific coincidence seems to happen over and over again...

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, the timeline makes no sense. I have a recent post about it.