Video footage has come out of police officers arresting New Zealand shooter

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

Interesting that someone was around to capture the arrest.
Also, the lone gunman conclusion puts a nice bow on top of this wrapped up case.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Yes the other 2 attackers with guns and bombs in their cars, already at the second mosque... that whole angle initially reported by theguardian right after it happened kind of got lost in the cracks

[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

This is a guaranteed false flag. Just like this was..

Magnora7, if you're not familiar with this event as a false flag then you'll definitely find it interesting. It starts out slow, but the info is comprehensive.

I see multiple parallels with this recent event.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Is that the guy in Norway who shot all those kids on that Island? I read vaguely about it when it happened but didn't really dig in to it like I did with this one. What was the most convincing single thing to you that outs that as a false-flag event? I could believe it, I just am ignorant about it and don't feel like watching more videos about terrorism today.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Here's a few:.

  • Delayed police responce.
  • Multiple attacks at multiple locations with a "single attacker".
  • White male attacker
  • Lone attacker taken alive by police (IMO: this is very unusual in modern times)
  • Both lashing out against percieved immigration issues.
  • Many victims murdered, but others curiously survived.
  • Extremely high kill count for a single attacker (the "Vegas shooter" only killed 50 at an open field concert, and "he" was firing for almost 10 straight minutes at targets who had no cover. (Yet this lone attacker was able to kill almost 50 people, and wound make more, similar to the +100 supposed victims on Norway.)

A couple of predictions:

  • It'll take time for the crisis actor recognition (might not happen, and may be the reason for the poor video quality).
  • I haven't heard any reports of police drills that were happening at the time of the event, but I think it's probable.
  • The early report of additional agents and explosives was likely legit. A secondary disaster was probably averted by the police. Similar to the office fire in the oil headquartedoffices down the street from the bombs in Norway.

I am certain that you will find the Norway attack presentation convincing, and relevant. The presenter (Ole) is a weird dude, but his content quality is remarkable.

Given that the occured in New Zealand, this is probably a Serco operation..

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Multiple attacks at multiple locations with a "single attacker".

That's the most convincing thing you listed imo. Interesting, thanks for the info

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You're not interested in watching the video for similarities, huh?

That's fine. We'll watch it as it unfolds. I'll keep you posted.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've been watching videos about terrorism all day. I'm emotionally done for the day, thanks for the updates

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fair enough, my friend.
I respect that.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cheers. All the best to you, friend.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Also, it's way more than shooting kids on an island.

  • A bomb detonated next to the federal buildings, that blew up killing and injuring many.
  • Most of the security cameras weren't working at the time....
  • A uniform debris distribution from the bomb, which is close to impossible.
  • The bomb had affected specific locations in physics defying ways.
  • Crisis actors appeared at the scene with horrific wounds: for example a steel rod in one woman's head, lacerations, etc., This maimed woman ended up flashing down a bus to get a ride to the hospital (rather than take one of 7 or 8 ambulances parked directly in front of them).

People did die, but plenty of false flag fakery, as well.

It's possible that the New Zealand attack is legit. However, 47 dead... From one man... people survive insane injuries. 47 seems like a stretch.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

He basically put them up against the wall and shot them all, then went back and shot them all again. Then they all laid there bleeding out for 10 minutes. That's how they do executions.

Thanks for the info about the norway stuff, interesting about the security cams...

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Watch this https://153news.net/files/videos/2017/11/12/15105174582e802-360.mp4

Forget that it's on 153news. This to me is very odd.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Link doesn't exist anymore? What does it show?

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Works for me, just reload it. The traffic on that site is a lot right now.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I got the video to appear this time, thanks. But it's loading hella slow. I'll check it out another time when it's more able to load

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That's how who does executions?

Who exactly preforms executions like that?

That was not an execution, it was a massacre.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Literally every modern army does executions by shooting people against a wall. He shot them against the floor.

Of course it was a massacre. I was making the point that real people actually died, which you said was untrue.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Really? I'm quite sure that this isn't true.

Is he a soldier? The Australians don't train soldiers to line people against walls for executions.
Also, why was he executing them? Execution implies some plan or accord.

He didn't send them to the wall. Inexplicably, they all went there on this own. One fellow stood facing the wall as if he couldn't hear the shots fired, and appears to be surprised and unaware.

The story presented is:

This Australian environmentalist travels around the world saying kind things, in Muslim, and European nations.
He then writes a racist manifesto, and massacres 50 people in a neighboring island country???
Initially, there were other agents, and bombs in multiple buildings, but that complicates things, so now it's one lone super warrior who listens to Serbian nationalistic music (ww1's Gavrilo Princip comes to mind); working alone and killing more people than Rambo.

What hasn't been mentioned is the fact that this sort of attack benefits Israeli interests. It's not surprising that it's ignored by the news, but surprising that it's ignored here.

This reeks of an Israeli operation.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This reeks of an Israeli operation.

I'll agree with you there, this seems like the Five Eyes system's wet dream to expand their operations

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Steel rod, yup that WAS HILARIOUS and she got on a bus instead of the 12 ambulances stationed right next to her.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My favorite part is the lady with a piece of wood stuck in her head. 12 ambulances stationed right next to her. NOPE, let's get on the bus instead, Holy shit, lol. Ole talks about this.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup, it was a false flag, no doubt. They jsut want one patsy in a kangaroo court.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The video is embedded in the top of the page. Looks like they pointed their guns at him while he was in the car, then he gets out and lays down and they arrest him.

[–]Doob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Does anyone have the time from when the shooting started to his arrest? The response time is suspiciously long.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I have a timeline of the video here: https://saidit.net/s/Death/comments/fyo/christchurch_mosque_footage/rdn

He starts shooting at 6:35 in the video. The video cuts out at 16:55, and I think he's near the second mosque when it cuts out. So the police response time was about 11-13 mins or so. Kind of typical, but a little slow. But for high-stakes operations they often have to do a bit more planning before rushing in and that can take a minute.

[–]Doob 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've been told the police don't keep weapons on them so they have to go back to the station to equip themselves. 11-13 mins is much faster than I expected that to take. They are using this to ban semi-autos (not trying to be political just stating the facts) but I wonder if this will also reshape police procedures. People now know as a shooter it's possible to hit more than 1 target.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've been told the police don't keep weapons on them so they have to go back to the station to equip themselves.

Seriously? Wow that's interesting.

I was reading about other mass shootings and it looks like the average response time is about 5-10 mins, so if they had to go back to the station to get guns, I'd say 11-13 mins is quite quick too.

I can imagine a change in policy to give guns to police though will just end up being used as a foot in the door towards a slippery slope of police militarization. Soon NZ police will look like American and French police.

Even if the cops had guns on them, they wouldn't have stopped any more killings I don't think, they would've just stopped him earlier on his drive to the second mosque. He killed like 45 I think in about 3 minutes in the first mosque. Frighteningly quick