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[–]Mnemonic 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

I'm Dutch and I like it when (semi)-automatic weapons are confiscated by the police.

But yeah I have my whole belief system with me, and yes I know with my chemist textbook I can do probably more, and yes the government isn't everything....

I know my fellow neighbours and have witnessed (and intervened too) in enough 'roughy' fights and one where one dickshithead had a gun, luckily he was too coked out and drunk out to remember the (i guess?) safety.

I agree that the government (of whichever country) can be too brutal/easily handle lethal assault, but (and just a little but, but can be big in the wrong circumstances) a drunk and a gun (and the NZ was psychotic mentioning pewdiepie [it's a rightwing meme here in The Netherlands (not as a bad thing, I watch that shit as you might know) But with psychosis everything is a trigger, a bannana or fish on the street could trigger it].

Conclusion: I would like the mental health (in the real sense) would be better for everyone and that free weapon owange wouldn't be a problem, but todays (since before WWI) has driven people crazy and yes I prefer those things not to be in hands of the people because, as it shows, it takes one caveman to take out (what is it?) 49? people!

It's a thing we (as western society) have compartmentalized: If you don't talk to your neighbourhood and engage in social interactions with them: who are you to own a gun of any sort?

Local social interactions, taking everyone in is what CAN (not WILL) help. because putting everyone in a mental health facility turns out like that Poe story (you guys with the know, know which one, Peck Feather amiright?)

You can turn the TV off, you can engage (on Saidit) in conversation, but better, enage in your neighborhood (also if you didn't already).

Yeah I drank and yes this happened on my BDay, so YES I'M BLESSED WITH THE BLOOD SACRIFICE, fuck everyone who doesn't drink some tea (yes, for the disgruntled I fuck ISIS over harder with double wired barbed hands if you would insinuate I, ME, MNEMONIC would take up the stance for ANY FUCKED OVER SAND RELIGION! ALL THREE OF THEM WITH THEIR BOOKS SHOULD BURN AND THEIR ASHES POURED INTO THE SOUTH POLE TO REINCARNATED AS TOILET PAPER, BUT NOT ON MY ASS!) with other religions, even if they came from the sand.

TLDR; Humans shouldn't have invented guns so America would still be full of long black haired beauties (for all persuasions).

Hey so, you think this was a crazy rant? now take that knowlegde to the MF who shot 49 (or more?) people up, I hope I preached to be normal, that's all. and I was angry and drunk and it was my BD this happened, so you also might know how I feel, the inventor of everything and all.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Happy birthday man

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

drunk and a gun (and the NZ was psychotic mentioning

The shooter was an operative, he checked off all the memes, race war triggers, etc,.

[it's a rightwing meme here in The Netherlands (not as a bad thing, I watch that shit as you might know) But with psychosis everything is a trigger, a bannana or fish on the street could trigger it].

There is zero relation between mental health and commiting violence. Study after study prove this.

Poverty and drug use increase gun violence though. And the shooter did not have psychosis, he wouldn't of been able to effectively do what he did and plan it, whilst writing a well-written manifesto, that he probably did not write.

Conclusion: I would like the mental health (in the real sense) would be better for everyone and that free weapon owange wouldn't be a problem, but todays (since before WWI) has driven people crazy and yes I prefer those things not to be in hands of the people because, as it shows, it takes one caveman to take out (what is it?) 49? people!

He wasn't a caveman. And in the states people with guns stop bad people with guns all the time. And you want a government monopoly on firearms, the biggest mass murderers of all time?

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

I heard the shooter did it because he didn't like the new Captain Marvel movie.

/s

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I believe it.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I was joking but the rest of what I've heard about his manifesto sound mostly equally absurd. It also sound orchestrated to cause chaos and divide harder. Either "they" pushed this on him or he's echoed much of the nonsense out there.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I was too, but I agree, The manifesto is absurd.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah he drank the 8chan coolaid, and some agencies might have given him a few extra sips of an extra toxic mix, so to speak

[–]Mnemonic 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the shooter did not have psychosis, he wouldn't of been able to effectively do what he did and plan it

Well I disagree on this, psychotic doesn't mean 'all out crazy' I'm drunk but that's not how pychosis works, they can be very 'normal'

And you want a government monopoly on firearms, the biggest mass murderers of all time?

That goes for all militia, a government is the one with the overpower (money, weapons, sexual interests) aka the one who has governance.

whilst writing a well-written manifesto, that he probably did not write.

I've read a bit and it's not well written and it's absurd to think he wrote that 'just before' doing it

Even if he did, doesn't mean he was right in anyway.

And in the states people with guns stop bad people with guns all the time.

'bad people with guns'

QED

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

There is zero relation between mental health and commiting violence.

I would say committing mass violence against innocents is mental illness, or at least proof of it.

I wonder if this guy was on SSRIs... seems many mass shooters are.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Half the US population has some sort of mental illness. The mentally ill in general DO NOT have a higher propsensity to commit gun violence. There is, however, a correlation between gun violence, drug violence/use, and poverty.

The idea in many of these mass shootings espeically the US PSYOP ones is to push both the anti-gun control narrative whilst the right pushes for red flag laws, dissident laws, baker act laws (mental hygine laws) and any other law giving power to the police. The government wants to deem anyone who questions government pre-packaged narratives to be considered a harm to themselves or mentally ill. Dissident laws will come in teh US down the road. The media is already pushing stories about how conspiracy theorists are criminals.

You can NOT make the broad generalization that mentally ill people are the reason for gun violence (not that you have). It is just not the case; SSRI's that's a different story in iitself.

I know people who CAN NOT obtain a gun because they checked into a mental hospital 20 years ago. In their teenage years for anxiety, which everyone has some form of anxiety. In many states they are indefinately not allowed to purchase a gun even though they can prove they are mentally compenent.

During Obama, his admin signed a rule that made veterans who had trouble with finances and needed a guardians help criminals. They were considered criminals in the NICS system. Even teh ACLU was outraged by this rule.

No matter what, the government and states will keep passing laws to make it harder to obtain a gun. They Will use the mental health argument because that accounts for nearly half the US population.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The mentally ill in general DO NOT have a higher propsensity to commit gun violence.

I agree with that. But I also agree with that statement that almost everyone who goes on mass shootings is definitely mentally ill.

You can NOT make the broad generalization that mentally ill people are the reason for gun violence

I completely agree, the mental ill need no more negative stigma, they need help or to be left alone, usually. And there is a lot of abuse of the Baker Act on people who don't deserve it as well as political dissidents, couldn't agree more.

No matter what, the government and states will keep passing laws to make it harder to obtain a gun.

That does happen, but some states have loosened open carry-laws in some states in recent years. It's not entirely a one-way street. But it's obvious there is a big anti-gun push on the large scale.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, I'm under the belief that most high profile mass shootings in the US are either PSYOPs or conducted by operatives, not lone wolves with mental health problems... with no motives to boot too. Like in the Sandy Hook case; Adam 'no motive' Lanza, who most likely didn't exist to begin with and who is an echo of Ryan Lanza. No internet presence, though, he supossedly played video games non-stop, and Ryan is only seen in public domain records AFTER Adams records and whereabouts had disappeared. Plus, the fact that there's no records of the Lanza's purchasing the firearms used at the alleged shooting, even though the media stated their was, to the obscene, ridiculous notion that a 6'1 112lb slenderman could shoot a gun with that kill ratio and pass three schools in the process. The motive is obvious, it benefits the state departments agenda but that's another story for a different time.

There are a few shootings in the US that are legitemate and done by mentally ill subjects with no motive other than being mentally ill but with such a small percentage, to scoop up all those with mental health problems and place them in a category label with not only real mass shooters but also criminals in the NICS system is not only dangerous but deters their ability to ask and seek out mental health professionals for the sole reason their rights could be infringed on.

And yes, it is not a one way street. Though, the long term goal for many is citizen confiscation of firearms and the further militarization of police and passing of dissident laws. The constitution doesn't even apply to us anymore in their minds at least because the NDAA legally supersedes some aspects of it via the donestic declaration of war and the broaf definition of beligerants. And yes, our country is legally a declared warzone and can be bombed, if need be.

So, yes. Their are a few good reps left that work hard to codify the constitution into law, that work hard to sanctify and follow it always, but it needs not apply to the well placed scum at the top. The very same ones who call for disarmament.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Everyone in the military and who support the military and support the troops (like saying support the killer-slaves who have no say and if they refuse are tried under a secret court run by other killers) - all these folks have brainwash induced mental illness.