49 killed in mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand

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[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

I agree on the problem, reaction, solution diagnosis.

I'm not even sure that would reveal anything if you had that extra info, it's possible he had just spent a lifetime getting mad, then found a connection with an agency in the last year without realizing who he was talking to.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Also, in his manifesto he says the perfect nation is China. Interesting. He obviously, isn't a fan of guns, even though he used them to kill 49 people. What is his religion? He says he is Christian, yet he thinks the perfect nation is China, the country that persecutes Christians. He's all over the place.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Yeah it's not cohesive or self-consistent. Not very well thought-out, but very attention-grabbing, loaded with emotional trigger words and phrases.

And on top of it he even says he's against anti-semitism and that is the only time he mentions that subject, or anything related to it including Israel and Zionism, in the entire manifesto apparently. Seems a rather glaring omission given the scope of the document.

[–]Jesus 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

New Zealand recently voted at the UN to adopt 9 new measure against Israel due to their anti-humanitarian ways:

http://www.jwire.com.au/new-zealand-votes-for-eight-un-anti-israel-resolutions/

Israel and its supporters of course were rather pissed:

https://aijac.org.au/australia-israel-review/air-new-zealand-wellingtons-un-votes-cause-concern/ Apparently New Zealand’s voting record at the UN lately has shown that they actually find it concerning that Israel continues to decimate Palestinians and dominate the Middle East as they see fit.

Were these attacks punishments? A message to New Zealand authority?

I agree, I think it would take highly trained, highly skilled individuals to pull these attacks off.

[–]FormosaOolong 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hmmm...another interesting twist.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting. Could be in response to that. I don't think Israel gives a shit about the UN though. They vote resolutions against Israel all the time, and nothing comes of it.

NZ is part of the 5-eyes program though, I feel like they're very controlled. But maybe this was a yank of the leash.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah, a so called Christian shooting innocent muslims in 'Christchurch' on social media, whislt social media websites go dark days before, having numerous problems, whislt these same social media companies need a reason to further censor and ban anyone who questions governmental backed media narratives, whilst his meme sketches etched in his guns like the fake Q conspiracy created by the state department to further increase censorship, whilst he denounces immigrants and calling them “invaders”, a check agaisnt the big bad Trump actor, whilst he says the perfect nationstate is China, and hates anti-semitism.

It's check mark, after check mark. All his manifesto does, if it is his, is create division and distraction. I'm leaning on this one being an operative job. VERY MUCH LIKE the real shooting in TAZ, AUS. But in this case they jsut used a crazy guy to do it. In the latter case they framed a kid who had a 66 IQ.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah it almost reads like a huge list of deep state disinformation talking points. Like almost exactly.

I wonder if you could get all the manifestos from all the shootings that are thought to be agency-aided, and if you could cross-compare them to pick out certain talking points that are the same across all of them.

[–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah it almost reads like a huge list of deep state disinformation talking points.

Holy shit, yes. All dressed up in a first-person shooter action-game package :(

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

might be wrong but i think the unabomber, and his manifesto are genuine

[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

agreed

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah pretty much. Seems to be the case.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

He even threw obviously ironic things like the navy seal copypasta and spyro next to the Trump and Nazi shit so everyone would interpret with their pre conceived notions. He also claimed in the manifesto to be a member of a new order of the Knight Templars and a supporter of U.S. President Donald Trump who he sees as “as a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose,” which is how the president is often depicted by mainstream media despite his many clarifications that his policy decisions are not based on race.

But anti-semitism is bad. According to him. oh and china is awesome according to him.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I heard about the navy seal copypasta. It just seems so weird to do 4chan memes and jokes as part of a manifesto. So unserious, and unprofessional, for lack of a better word. You'd think if you were about to give your life to explain your worldview to everyone, that you'd be at least mostly serious about it. This guy's a joker. It's weird.

Yes, the saying Trump is god and making all the race and racist associations is another perfect example of something super controversial that he has now just poured gasoline on a fire.

He basically seems to be spreading disinformation, trolling, and claiming it as his worldview. Before killing 49 people. Weird as hell.

[–]useless_aether[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

navy seal copypasta

that was a bit too much for me too

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Gaza was being bombed whilst the shootign went down also.

What is the 4chan credo, the one thing a guy radicalized on 8chan would absolutely believe?

"Jews are the true enemy, non-whites are simply their tool to pollute and weaken our countries."

Go on 4 and 8chan, it's everywhere.

Seriously, this is the cornerstone of their beliefs. What did this guy have to say about Jews/Israel?

No problem with Israel, enjoy your homeland buddies!

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah if this guy posted his manifesto on 4chan they'd call him a shill and ignore him. The mainstream culture doesn't really align with this guy's manifesto at all. He's more like those idiotic "Q" followers which is another intelligence agency invention designed to keep people passive, and thinking revolutionary change for the better is just around the corner, if they just keep waiting. 4chan hates the Q people now because it's been proven fake so many times.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And then there’s also this Mossad connection to an Israeli spyring operating in New Zealand that happened to be unearthed due to an earth quake and damage at Christchurch back in 2011...interesting.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/newzealand/8649223/Mossad-spy-ring-unearthed-because-of-Christchurch-earthquake.html

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

And like clockwork: https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/384838/christchurch-mosque-terror-attacks-our-gun-laws-will-change-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

just literally posted that to a post, good timing. https://saidit.net/s/WorldNews/comments/fxl/nz_prime_minister_jacinda_ardern_said_following/

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is exactly like Australia and tazmania. The government of AUS said two months beofre the Taz shooting we need a shooting in Tazmania of mass proportions to pass any real legislation for Australia and sure enough it happened. What is especially interesting is prime minister of AUS, John Howard's behavior during the legislative process of banning guns. He acted like the banning of guns wasn't his doing. He used the words 'They' are doing this. As if someone ABOVE GOVERNMENT had measures to ban guns and HE, Howard, had to abide to them. I call them internationalists.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=b1JQ1uvYuMY

https://www.change.org/p/the-hon-will-hodgman-mp-martin-bryant-deserves-a-lawful-coronial-inquest-and-for-all-our-sakes

https://cairnsnews.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/advanced-obituary-martin-bryant.pdf

Good documentary about the Port Arthur Shooting

and even better book

https://www.amazon.com/Murder-Keith-Allan-Noble-2013-07-19/dp/B01FEM6V10/ref=sr_1_2?qid=1552691607&refinements=p_27%3AKeith+Allan+Noble&s=books&sr=1-2

https://www.bookdepository.com/Mass-Murder-Keith-Allan-Noble/9783000028410

The book below is a disinformation agent. Vialls should not be trusted.

http://ozff.org/downloads/PORT-ARTHUR-MASSACRE-FalseFlagReport-JoeVialls.pdf

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Global leaders [who] criticized social media giants Facebook, Twitter, and Google over their handling of extremist content on their platforms on Friday, after video footage of mass shootings at two mosques in New Zealand was live streamed and widely shared online.

reuters

Problem Reaction Solution.

[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

here we go...