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[–]Dune1032[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Ignore Russia. The West must stop Russia in Ukraine. It must not make the same mistake as Britain and France in the 1930s, being too afraid to fight Germany.

[–]Notspendingmylife 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You seriously think that Britain was afraid to fight Germany? They were eager to and started the conflict in the first place. The attack on Poland did not come out of the blue, nor was unpreventable with peaceful measures. The West was happy that they now could corner Germany with a war declaration, while facing off the Soviet Union. There was, and still is not, a single sovereign country in the Western world that isn't completely controlled by the international finance system.

[–]Dune1032[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes. Chamberlain let Hitler take the Sudentenland because he didn't want to fight Germany and thought that would appease him. When Germany invaded Poland, Britain and France declared war on Germany but did nothing. They should have attacked Germany from the west while much of Germany's military was fighting Poland.

[–]Notspendingmylife 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Weird, isn't it? Britain and France had every chance to attack, yet didn't. Why is that? Because it was deliberate.

Ww2 was a huge optics game. They wanted Gemany to do the firstmove, every time when it came to their grievances. Attacking Germany when they were invading Poland would have looked like it was Germany who was under attack. Ignore Germany's diplomatic requests regarding Poland and let them attack Poland instead. Escalate the situation and corner Gemany with a righteous war declaration. The contributing factor was that they didn't quite feel that they could yet take out Germany in a swift pass. Attacking Germany when they were annexing Sudetenland and Austria would have been even worse as these populations wanted to be part of Germany anyway.

The silent factor in this whole enterprise was the Soviet Union. A new emerging superpower was building in the East and not only becoming an industrial and economic powerhouse, but a military force surpassing Germany and the West. Germany was surrounded by two superpowers, yet had absolutely 0 support or acknowledgement from the West and instead are being provoked and then handed a war declaration. Leaving Germany militarly defenseless, like suggested in the Versailles treaty was completely absurd and would leave Central Europe vulnerable to a country that had every means and reason to take advantage of the power vacuum. The Soviet Union was also dangerous because they would in return be much safer from an attack, because of the thousands of kilometers of wasteland that seperated their industrial centers from the borders. Germany was at a huge geographical disadvantage with a new player emerging in the World, and the Brits took full advantage of that.

[–]Dune1032[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

From "The Military History of World War II." "Certainly, there had been no attempt to take pressure off the Poles during their ordeal by military action across the Rhine - much to the relief and astonishment of some of the senior Wehrmacht officers, who revealed after the war that a powerful thrust into the Saar during the first month of the war would have been almost uncontested and could possibly have precipitated that popular revolt against the Nazi Party and the Fuhrer of which Chamberlain so ardently dreamed."

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Why are we fighting Russia again?

[–]Dune1032[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The US never fought Russia. Putin must be stopped in Ukraine, otherwise like Hitler he would continue his aggression. Hopefully, it doesn't lead to war with Russia but if it does then that's how it has to be. Britain and France kept trying to avoid war with Hitler but couldn't.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

With all due respect. Ukraine is the Nazis. Not Russia.

[–]Dune1032[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

During World War II, Germany invaded Russia which included Ukraine. Presently, Russia invaded Ukraine. Which country resembles the Nazis?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Nazis resemble the Nazis.

Ukraine was the MOST corrupt country in 2014. I’m the world. Ukraine has a huge Nazi issue, just, they don’t see it as a problem, because they are Nazis.

How could you be so silly as to eat breath and repeat Ukraine war propaganda? This is dangerous. And the us supports a puppet government, overthrown and installed by the US government. They are corrupt. And they are real Nazis.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Did poor widdle wussia threaten to make another dookie in they pants agin?