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[–]hfxB0oyA 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

RFKJr knows what the fuck is up. I hope he doesn't end up like his uncle for going against the machine.

[–]Jesus 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Kennedy's have always been multilateralists. When Kennedy was killed, Robert, who at the time was working to make what is now AIPAC register as a foreign agent under FARA, when to Russia and asked who they thought would have killed his brother. We know now that it wasn't the Russian Communists who did it, but Mossad/Israeli supremacists and pro-interventional Zionist elements in the CIA.

RFK was killed shortly after by Zionists who blamed it on a hypnotized Palestinian Christian.

RFK Jr. is in Epstein's black book, unfortunately. He's controlled!

[–]Alphix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Holy shit, Jesus is back! :D

[–]thatrightwinger 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

The first accusation, prolonging the war and maximizing deaths, is the most contentious and the hardest to prove.

As for the second and third, I think a lot of Americans would be in favor of both of those things. Putin is literally a former KGB spook with ideas of expanding Russia back to its USSR or Imperial borders. I watch a lot of news, and I haven't seen any Western leaders call for Putin's ouster. Moreover, most Americans see the expansion of NATO as a very good thing. The entire point of NATO was to check the power of the Soviet Union and prevent it from expanding, so a proxy war where NATO soldiers' lives aren't on the line and Ukraine gets Western military technology seems like the perfect balance to me.

I have yet to hear any compelling arguments that the invading Russians are the "good guys" or even that, other than the fiscal expense, NATO shouldn't be aiding Ukraine against Russian aggression.

[–]Chipit[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

The entire point of NATO was to check the power of the Soviet Union and prevent it from expanding

I've got some good news for you from a quarter century ago: we won! The USSR literally dissolved!

other than the fiscal expense

We could literally have healthcare for everyone, a border wall and a pony for every little girl in America for all the money we've sent to the most corrupt country in Europe. I think cheering for Nazis was the breaking point for many people.

[–]thatrightwinger 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Your shortsightedness is literally the reason that Russia has become more of a threat since Putin's rise. They are literally threatening neighbors from the Baltic States to Poland to Georgia. All the former Soviet Republics and Warsaw Pact states clearly believed that Russia was still a threat, and only the vigilance of NATO has kept the Russian Federation from swallowing up countries like Lithuania and Georgia entirely.

As for your statement about the costs, your claims of "healthcare for everyone" is a pathetic joke. As for a wall, we could simply remove illegals directly, not have to deal with the expense of their presence, and use that money to build the border wall. Have a feeling that, you oppose a border all anyway. Of course, the moment you bring "ponies" into the conversation, it literally means you live in a fantasy world, which is manifestly the case. But just because you live in that fantasy world with "free healthcare" and "ponies" doesn't mean that reality works that way.

[–]Chipit[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Your shortsightedness is literally the reason that Russia has become more of a threat since Putin's rise.

LOL. So this is another paid poster account. A whole 20 days old, I see. Everyone, click the "block user" button above and disengage.

Russia: So incompetent that they can't even overrun the most corrupt country in Europe.

I see this topic has registered on your group's social media dashboard. Posters are piling in to represent the interests of the powerful. What, did Pfizer get taken off?

Also Russia: So dangerous a threat that they are literally going to invade and overrun Europe.

your claims of "healthcare for everyone" is a pathetic joke.

No, literally, we could have it for that much. A border wall is a one-time expense and it's done.

[–]Alphix 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is absolutely based, correct, factual and true. Anybody who argues this has their heads somewhere dark, damp and smelly.

I'm blocking the shill.

[–]thatrightwinger 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

If it makes you feel any better, I came over after being banned from reddit. Nothing like a warm welcome at the "free speech" alternative.

I'm glad you believe the lies of those who advocate for "healthcare for everyone," if that were really the case, we could get rid of medicare, medicaid, and welfare, and move the funds over to "healthcare for everyone," but that has somehow not been proposed.

Nothing you say disproves my points. Russia isn't even using the full force of their might. Their air forces have been mostly left out, and there are lots of soldiers in other border areas that remain where they are. No one is claiming the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was a fraud, and that was similarly disastrous.

You're wrong about me being a "paid poster." I was formerly a moderator on /r/conservative and was banned (under the same username, if you would like to check) from reddit, for not bowing the knee to their leftists talking points. You make no valid points whatsoever, particularly since Russia was mostly pacified during Boris Yeltsin's rule, and Russia has attacked (directly or indirectly) no less than three of its neighbors.

I have no interest in "defending the power:" I have long-been a small-government conservative. But weakening a volatile nuclear power without using our own soldiers looks like both a smart idea and a win on the international stage to me.

[–]Chipit[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Then what's with backing the State Department line that Russia is some huge threat? They're not a threat at all. A real threat would have powered through Ukraine.

But weakening a volatile nuclear power without using our own soldiers looks like both a smart idea and a win on the international stage to me.

Neocon, then. Pro-war internationalist.

This site has a passel of paid posters posting all over the place, and it's easy to spot them because they constantly peddle the US government's lines on just about everything: Ukraine, Pfizer, Biden, etc.

[–]thatrightwinger 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I've been a longtime Biden hater. My accounts on reddit and patriots.win will bear that out. And I fail to see how I'm a "neocon" when I entirely oppose sending American soldiers to Ukraine.

You've entirely failed to make any points whatsoever. Russia is a threat because it has nuclear weapons. Do you deny that? Ukraine held Russia off in their first wave a year ago, and that's when the world realized that they could deplete Russia of all their power by proxy, and it's worked.

Throw insults at me, make false accusations, but for every Russian tank that's destroyed, every Russian missile that is shot down, every bit of ammunition that is wasted, their own neighbors are sleeping a little easier. This is a war that American soldiers don't have to have boots on the ground. NATO wins, no matter what, because Russia is weak and only gets weaker.

I have real points, and you have offered nothing in return.

[–]neolib 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There's a group of users here with weird worldview - that everybody who isn't pro-Kremlin/anti-Ukraine is a shill. Just ignore them.

[–]thatrightwinger 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is a very weird time, I have to admit. I grew up during the Cold War. Everyone but the communists agreed that NATO was a good thing. Everyone knew that a proxy war against the Soviet Union would bleed them out and hasten their downfall. We have Russia in a no-win situation: they have to play very carefully fighting against Ukraine because they know they can't fight a war against NATO without seeing Moscow turned to glass, but NATO is throwing one-generation old military technology at Ukraine and its effective.

I'm against US and NATO troops in NATO, but I like seeing Moscow being humiliated and pushed back by Ukraine. This feels like a win-win, and I can't see a scenario where I would support Vlad the Impaler Putin.

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Everyone but the communists agreed that NATO was a good thing.

That's where you're wrong, bucko.

Europeans hated NATO and staged massive protests against it. How do you not even know this, "Cold Warrior"?

I like seeing Moscow being humiliated

Pro-war neocon. How about a better idea? No war and death and profits for the military-industrial complex? Weird take, eh?

[–]neolib 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is a small reddit alternative, so lots of contrarians here. As I imagine their thinking:

"MSM lies -> I'm anti-MSM, always ; MSM says Russia bad/Ukraine good, therefore I'm taking an opposite position: Russia good/Ukraine bad!"

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ask yourself: if the US government could alter your brain to becoming an unpaid spokesman for them, what would they change, exactly?

their own neighbors are sleeping a little easier.

Who the fuck cares? They hold America in utter contempt. What are we, America World Police? You know the entire world hates us starting wars all over the planet, and rightfully so?

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Ok shill

[–]thatrightwinger 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's sad that there are people so far up their own rear-ends that they believe their own lies.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ok neocon

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

USSR didn't dissolve. It just changed corporation status. Russia is still full of Eurasianist Jewish Bolsheviks, as is the Ukraine and the US. Cheering for Nazis? You mean that one Ukrainian National socialist sympathizing group which was founded by a Jew whose members are now almost liquidated?

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

cheering for Nazis was the breaking point for many people.

But we're sending the Ukranians to die. We picked one of the most corrupt countries in the world to act as mercenaries, to bleed Russia and keep them hobbled, prevent them from becoming a world player again. We got the bad guys to fight the bad guys.

$80bn seems like a lot, but it's a lot cheaper and less dangerous than the US getting directly involved, and Americans aren't the ones dying.

We could literally have healthcare for everyone, a border wall and a pony for every little girl in America for all the money

A free pony in a Russo-Sino dominated world is unlikely imo.

[–]Chipit[S] 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Who gives a shit about Russia? How about our lives here in America? Who cares if the deep state wants to play the game of thrones? They can grab a rifle and get out there themselves. That's our fucking money, and what happens in the most corrupt country in Europe is none of our damn business.

Boy, taking talking points from the military-industrial complex is super sus. It's not something that Americans do.

[–]Alphix 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah Musky is scared of the Russians but NOT of their nuclear arsenal. This is one of the most demented geopolitical positions I have ever observed. Sorry Musky, I just call it how I see it.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Musky doesn't pay any taxes, so he's happy to spend your money.

[–]socks-the-nigger 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's a crooked behaviour just like Biden!

[–]Jesus 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Slavs killing Slavs and Chabad leading it all.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

welcome back lord 🙏

[–]grassfed 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

All because we allowed jews to flee to America

[–]aaarrgh 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

you write a lot of nonsense, dude

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Probably radicalcentrists new alt

[–]chottohen 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

One of the purposes of intel agencies is to spot possible trouble spots around the world and aggravate them so the agencies can sell more weapons to both sides. Several NATO countries produce weapons of war. "War is our business and business is good" could be said of many nations.

[–]BanditMcFuklebuck 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Another scratchy old fossil...when are we going to have a presidential candidate that is a true representation of the prominent American demographic, a black gay Trans-Former-person that's 150 lbs overweight and has a sassy attitude?

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Never because the US is a trading corp and YOU will never select an EO of US inc.

[–]Alphix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most people don't understand the difference, that the USA constitution applies to the USA, but that the whole government is actually part of a corporation called the "US" (no "A") and that as such, being property of this corporation, you have no rights, you don't have a constitution. You have nothing but the status of property. Slaves. Slavery was not abolished, it was universalized. They're just breaking it to you very slowly.

I'm pretty sure the non-citizen national status returns your natural rights to you, however.

[–]Musky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is pretty much what I've been telling people, although I am not sympathetic to Russia as RFK Jr is. I think his and others analysis fails in this "live and let live" / America's Fault myth I hear so often. This isn't a defensive action by Russia, their empire building would have happened regardless of what we did.

Using Ukraine is a smart move for US geopolitical interests. It's practically a civil war using the Ukranians as mercs. Nobody in the know expects them to win, that isn't their job and never was. They sap Russia's will to fight by dying as well as they can -- which according to the leaks isn't that great, but even killing so many has to be getting old for the Russians. These are their former countrymen.

People who wave the Ukranian flag and show their "support," were showing their support for exactly what we are doing. They just didn't know it.

Despite my pro-US stance, I don't love how we're using them. It's awful. But I think them dying now may stop many others dying later.

[–]Chipit[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The crimes the deep state thinks they will prevent in the future - they are imaginary. The crimes they commit in the present - they are real.

[–]Alphix 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

^

[–]Alphix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're wrong, Musky.

The Ukraine war is about genociding the white Christians, same as EVERYWHERE ELSE with mass immigration of non-Christians into Christian lands. This is being done on behalf of the overlords of the Western nations, the Ashkenazis whose original lands were... Eastern Ukraine. So obviously that's why the war to exterminate white Christians starts there.

Much more, here: https://saidit.net/s/Ukraine/comments/aspv/the_ukrainian_side_is_clearing_eastern_ukraine_of/

[–]SoCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A possible interpretation and intention:

Ukraine is a tactical position in the West versus East long run. After coup'ing them and installing our puppet leader through controlled referendums, we Americans gave them time to genocide the opposition and Soviet-heritage'd half of the Ukrainian population. We manicured their image with our war-media ("news" stations) and developed their arms capability.

We've spent the last couple years building public consent for world war with our "Russian invasion" rhetoric. We stripped our public of rights as best we can, weakened the opposition within our own ranks, killed off our old and weak with Covid nursing homes, and took full control of the flow of information and media. Now while Russia and China are still weak from our Covid attack, the time for offensive attack of Russia and China if they dare make a peep, is here.

[–]MagicMike 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Bidens are thrilled: kickbacks on the military spending and then the juicy payoffs when the rebuilding starts in Ukraine.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Perfect President. He's a DINO. Democrat In Name Only.