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    [–]JohnRaymond 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (10 children)

    Well, he woulda died of covid 😎😎😎😅

    [–]Tums_is_Smut_bkwrds 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Ironically everyone who is now dying from complications of the vax are technically dying from CoViD. So numbers are up.

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    Possibly his illness was affecting his attention, alertness and response time.

    But that's not what the CDC standards are for a CoVID death, so that one was removed from the count.

    [–]JohnRaymond 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    Question was... Why wad it put in there first time? RAMP UP FEAR. we know this. Pcr testing was bogus, diabolical if you sell down. And then did exact opposite on vaers, made it lower...

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    Human error i would guess.

    [–]JohnRaymond 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    There were too many things. Conspiracy, not errors

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    One guy in Florida was misclassified as CoVID for a week, because some secret powerful organisation put pressure on the hospital staff to incorrectly enter the death as CoVID when he died "with CoVID" instead of "of CoVID"?

    How did they apply that pressure to make such a plausible clerical error? Did they find who was doing the data entry and offer them money to make the typo and keep quiet about it?

    Or just kidnap their children and hold them ransom for a small error, that would be corrected by the end of the month?

    [–]JohnRaymond 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    One guy in Florida... And where blamed for being c theor. My gosh, the stats are so incredibly worthless. Harvard study said only 1 to 10 per cent got rptd to vaers. That's not us. If CDC was real org, they take sample and follow them. Not rely on vaers

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    One guy in Florida

    A motorcyclist who was involved in a crash, apparently.

    And where blamed for being c theor.

    What's "c theor"?

    My gosh, the stats are so incredibly worthless.

    Of course. But that's the red herring. The question is "how was pressure applied to the clerical staff entering the deaths?"

    Harvard study said only 1 to 10 per cent got rptd to vaers.

    Covid deaths aren't reported to vaers. That's a database for reporting possible adverse reactions to vaccines, not infections.

    No one relies on VAERS, It's a catch all of any suspected adverse reactions, so that any reactions of a type that hasn't been expected can be compared between vaccinated and control groups to see if there's a relationship to the vaccine.

    [–]JohnRaymond 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    1. Conspiracy thoerist
    2. A congressman who is a doctor was told how to fill out death certificates. Videos on this. I think there were 2. I would have told them to eat shit. And lost my license. You do know Drs lost licenses?
    3. Agree, covid deaths not on vaers.

    So if you took vax, dropped dead 15 m later, or within14 days... You weren't A vaccine death... YOU WERE A COVID DEATH.

    The utter fraud. People are gonna lose their minds when they see how deceived they were. And some is their fault. And, same thing with false pope Francis, fake church since 1958.... And that has salvation ramifications

    [–]HibikiBlack 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Around the time studies started coming out regarding the effects the lockdowns had vs the virus. I started becoming skeptical to the point of slowly accepting that It's all part of a genocide plot:

    https://saidit.net/s/Jesuits/comments/a3d4/about_the_jesuit_role_in_the_genocide_plan_along/

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      [–]Musky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Fantastic movie.

      [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      For about a week before it was corrected.

      [–]Bigs 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

      When I searched for evidence that masks work, in order to convince a friend, and found plenty of evidence that they do not work for any virus, never had and never would. Worse, as I tried to share this information found those studies being systematically removed from the web.

      That convinced me there was a PR push of some kind that had nothing to do with health. It was about theater, hysteria, control etc.

      Then I researched previous corona vaccines, to see what might happen with the ones they were talking of developing. Read we never had a coronavirus vaccine before, because all previous attempts made the animal test subjects more likely to catch the disease and/or to suffer or die more from the disease.

      Even back then, was reading how it was impossible to make an injection that would prevent a lung disease, because the lungs are effectively like an external organ. That any vaccine would only ever prevent severe disease but could not prevent infection and transmission. If little old me knew that before they were even developed, then I cannot for a moment believe that the governments and pharma companies didn't.

      So the entire masking and injection thing was a farce from the very start, and they knew that.

      [–]StillLessons 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      This is a key realization; it also came for me with time researching the past few years. They knew. There was a study published well before covid "appeared" demonstrating specifically that the spike protein was the toxin in constructions of this type. Then they designed their juice to make the body a factory for just that part of the construction. Combine this with publication in the two top medical journals (Lancet and NEJM) fraudulently attacking the use of HCQ, which was demonstrably healing people, and you have serious intent on your hands. This is the biggest conspiracy fact we've ever had the opportunity to chronicle in real time. We are living one hell of an experiment in the evil of human nature of the powerful, divorced from any sense of shared humanity.

      [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Worse, as I tried to share this information found those studies being systematically removed from the web.

      Journals don't remove published papers that haven't been retracted for fraud or blatant error.

      Even then you get a notice of retraction.

      [–]zyxzevn 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (9 children)

      When the in Jan 2020 a Cruise-ship was having almost no deaths, with lots of old people. Which meant that it was not dangerous at all.

      All reported data after that did not match with this, and was clear that something was faked. They had inflated the numbers x10 or more. And still it looked like a variation of the flu. And most got it in that winter anyway.

      [–]Bigs 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      It's interesting to look back and think how, even as I was developing doubts, that I resisted that information. Was trying to convince a friend to take covid seriously, looked at the cruise ship situation and that somehow didn't have the effect on me it should have. Mmm...

      [–]Saiditking 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

      So were the vaccines a hoax?

      [–]1Icemonkey 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

      The vaccines were the purpose for the hoax, so in turn yes, they were THE hoax.

      [–]Saiditking 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

      So what was the purpose for the vaccines? Was there a conspiracy? Who carried out the conspiracy and why? What were the vaccines supposed to do?

      [–]LarrySwinger2 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I disagree with his terminology. The purpose of the vaccine is to genocide the population so gently that, combined with systematic denial in the Mockingbird media, people don't even notice it. But they do it while robbing them of a lot of money so they can reduce the standard of living. I think that only the Illuminati is capable of such an operation. Klaus Schwab is a Rothschild descendent, so there's your hint. But the wider purpose of the operation was to destroy social cohesion and wreak financial havoc (in the long term), so they can change our way of life more effectively as we approach 2030.

      [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      The purpose of the vaccines was to jump-start a new industry for the US. MRna has been assumed to be the next magic-pill ($$) for the drug industry for a decade. You'll note that Biden said we're post-covid, and yet we're still using Emergency Use vaccines. They don't work, and no one in any position of authority (gov, media, pharma) is willing to state that we should stop using them because the tech is garbage - instead, we're already onto how else we can use mRna tech in our lives.

      [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      We knew it was coming long before COVID:

      https://CorbettReport.com/BigOil

      [–]JohnRaymond 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Georgia Guidestones. Depopulation, total control

      [–]StillLessons 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      By March 2020 a major discrepancy was already clear in the way the disease acted (those dying were all old or with co-morbidities) and the way the disease was presented (everyone's going to die! YOU're going to die!). From that point on, the lies kept building up. Once suspicious, it became increasingly difficult for me to understand why anyone was actually believing a word of what was being sold. I'm still shocked, in truth.

      [–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

      ^

      [–]chottohen 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      You will never go broke betting on the stupidity of the majority.

      [–]Alphix 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      The moment the "pandemic" was declared, since I had read the Rockefeller Foundation's "Operation Lockstep".

      [–]handbananasrevenge 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      When the same people who called us grandma killers for wanting to take our kids to the park, were also calling for and supporting protests and riots, and the medical community said protesting was fine.

      [–]Tums_is_Smut_bkwrds 7 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

      What's interesting to me now is how those that could not wait to get the vax, and who you could not talk to about anything but the official narrative or risk permanently damaging your relationship with them, have all got shifty eyes now and quickly change the subject if it comes up. They fucking know that they were sold, and bought, a complete load of bullshit but they are not yet ready to admit it to themselves. Close, but not quite yet. And since they are the majority and there's security in numbers no one is going to let them self feel too badly or outrage, because <slaps forehead> they are all in the same boat <wink wink> our bad.

      But get an apology for treating the rest of us like absolute dogshit scum and murderers? Not on your fucking life.

      [–]SMCAB 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

      But get an apology for treating the rest of us like absolute dogshit scum and murderers? Not on your fucking life.

      Don't hold your breath, I take every single opportunity I'm given to fuck with these people. Especially when a lot of people are around. It was my lifeblood for a while.

      [–]LarrySwinger2 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      or risk permanently damaging your relationship with them

      Fuck fear. I allowed a friendship get destroyed over this. He spewed his mainstream BS to me, so I wanted to show him the damage vaccines caused and he didn't want to hear about it. The relationship was damaged as soon as he became brainwashed and it was just an empty attempt to keep the ship afloat after that. This has never bothered me.

      [–]agent_pecan 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

      The first month the media was feeding it to us. Ran a lot of models early on, realized they were lying, tried to tell people and was insulted repeatedly and gave up.

      [–]RoundOpaque 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

      Same, though most people I knew were of the opinion there was much dishonesty afoot.

      I just looked at https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate. If COVID-19 was/has caused a net increase in deaths, not just replacing other causes, you would see a marked change in the growth rate. Almost no country shows this 2020 or 2021 which disproves almost all the narratives. Tbf it does also disprove the "miLLiOns oF pEOPle aRe dIedER from the shOT" stories too.

      [–]LarrySwinger2 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Great analysis. What seems odd to me is that the US death rate has been growing by >1% consistently since 2014. For a fuller understanding, it's important that we understand what been driving those deaths. But it's true that Covid, at best, is replacing other deaths. Maybe there's been a more severe flu strain since 2014 which we didn't notice because of the lack of hysteric media coverage, and now a new, lab-produced virus is literally dis-easing more youthful people in addition to killing the same elders who would've died anyway, and that's why the hysteria seems justified. That would've covered the mass death part of the operation: it was already going on but they kept it quiet.

      [–]hfxB0oyA 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      No one thing, but my faith in health officials started getting cracks when they were telling us specifically not to use masks and instead to keep 6 feet away, then telling us we should wear folded up laundry over our faces instead of N95s. Then the decree that you won't get it if you go out and protest Racism™ in big crowds, then the decree that outdoor protestors they didn't like were endangering people's lives by gathering.

      Also, as soon as the virus came into the public consciousness, they were tripping over themselves to declare all over the news that there was no way this could have been created in a lab, and that gain of function research was a hoax. And if it were real, it simply couldn't have been done on this kind of a virus. That already had me calling bullshit. Then fast forward to last summer when we found out that researchers at Boston University were doing gain of function research on this very virus and modified it to kill 80% of the mice they infected. But... but... I thought that was impossible, O Mighty Health Gurus.

      Then I started looking at the deaths in my area. Almost everyone who was taking the exit door was of the age that they were previously dying of the flu beforehand. In fact, the average age of death from COVID was 10 months older than before covid.

      Vaccines are well proven to provide protection and I'm not an anti vaxxer. I took the shots to be a good citizen and because I have some immune compromised people in my family. The last straw that finally opened my eyes that this isn't a vaccine has been the number of sudden deaths cropping up in the news. No more boosters for me and I'm taking Vit D and zinc every day. I've been around 3 infected people for long periods and haven't gotten sick at all. Hopefully all will continue to be well, but I'm done listening to my government on this.

      [–]SMCAB 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

      Not one day of that garbage worked on me. I bought up my food and tp way before it was an issue, although I'm always prepared in that way, saw it coming a mile away. Anyone paying attention knew in November 2019 the shit was gonna hit the fan.

      [–]JasonCarswell 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

      When they were hyping it in November and December 2019.

      [–]BISH[S] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

      Prescience?

      [–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      It just smelled of another psyop. In the fall there was the Vegas shooting and then we were warned another bigger thing was coming. We thought it was going to be a 9/11 false flag event. Didn't expect COVID health hysteria to balloon so fast or big or be so tied to everything for full spectrum dominance, but once it started it was just so fucking obvious and most of the discerning on SaidIt weren't confused or taken in at all.

      [–]zyxzevn 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      You mean the videos of people dropping on the streets?

      [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      It just smelled of another psyop. In the fall there was the Vegas shooting and then we were warned another bigger thing was coming. We thought it was going to be a 9/11 false flag event. Didn't expect COVID health hysteria to balloon so fast or big or be so tied to everything for full spectrum dominance, but once it started it was just so fucking obvious and most of the discerning on SaidIt weren't confused or taken in at all.

      [–]Barcodetilter 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Damn you are soooo smart

      [–]Irumiblue4 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I've always been cynical towards the medical-pharma systems and I learned the whole story as time went on.

      [–]1Icemonkey 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      About the minute they required masking I stated this was a dry run at a police state. That was sometime in mid 2020.

      [–]Bonn1770 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

      After I got it and lived. I'm not healthy nor young. Lost my sense of taste for a couple months now I'm good.

      Basically just do the opposite of what Jews say and you're good.

      [–]ShekelPa 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      When the thug monkey Floyd got what he deserved. All of a sudden, the jackasses who scolded people for going out, associating with one another in proxiimity, and not wearing masks were radio silent when all the other monkeys and liberal jackasses were out and about, elbow to elbow, with no mask.

      Then when that scam lost momentum, they then proceeded to blame racism for the rise in "cases" among the same people that rioted for several months.

      [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      For a long time I knew these NWO people needed an economic collapse. Locking down everything down everything for a chicken little model seemed suspect.

      What sort of experts don’t factor in opportunity costs or models being wrong? Unless they used it as an excuse to destroy economies.

      [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

      Not til just now when you shouted it at me in all caps. jk

      The whole thing stunk from the beginning, it reminded me of the 9/11 coverage in the emotionally loaded language choices that seemed designed to manipulate.

      [–]carn0ld03 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      From the start. I knew I was being lied to, I simply didn't understand the end goal.

      [–]MeatCommercial 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

      Tribal reactionaries, tribal reactionaries everywhere. I jump from frying pan to fire back to frying pan like I'm playing hopscotch.

      [–]JohnRaymond 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

      Sedevacantists hammered it home spring 2020

      [–]RoundOpaque 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      "Seddies: playing musical chairs with theology since 1970"

      I have no idea what that means but I just made it up and it sounds good

      [–]JohnRaymond 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Actually sedes are quite brilliant. Inc me😎😎😎. Some actually figured it out, 1965. One priest said about Roncalki... Another time. Busy😎

      [–]1Icemonkey 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      Man, are you still on that kick?

      [–]JohnRaymond 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      It was 100% related to the question. And yes, it's very important.

      [–]tiny-brown-mug 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

      I went back to work after two weeks in front of the TV, and realized that no one was dropping dead in the streets. Things seemed pretty normal. My co-workers all caught it, and while one or two got long Covid, no one died. I did not see that the panic was proportionate to the reality.

      If you're likely to die of pneumonia or the flu, or you're over 60, be careful. Other than that, carry on, basically.

      [–]JohnRaymond 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

      So, I was offering hugs to strangers and I was over 60 as a way if resisting and of course being a smart ass. No takers, but I tried Btw, I have had long covid: SNIFFLES, EVERY 3 MO, for a few hours.

      [–]tiny-brown-mug 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      I'm glad it wasn't too bad for you, man! It seems like obese folks and diabetics had the worse time with it. My 68-year-old Mom caught it, and had it pretty bad. She mercifully survived, though, minus any hospitalization. I have a weird feeling about hospitalizations for this thing. I have heard of 19-year-old kids brought to the hospital for Covid (thank you, media panic), being intubated, and they wind up dying.

      [–]JohnRaymond 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I'm happy for mom. Hancock in Britain was murdering folks... See David Icke. In us, flat out murder... Remdesivir, ventilators, and cutting off people from family. Pigs

      [–]LarrySwinger2 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      From day one. This guy told me his Aliexpress order would arrive late because of 'the virus'. What bullshit.

      [–]Feldheld 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      From day 1 of this global bout of insanity it was obvious. All these measures never made any sense to begin with. To anybody who wasnt scared out of their minds because theyre fake news addicts and fell for the 24/7 scare porn in the media it was blatantly clear that

      • it was just the flu
      • people were dying from panicking medical personnel, lack of early treatment, overzealous application of ventilators, and expensive drugs like remdesivir
      • lockdowns and mask mandates would do immeasureable harm while not doing any good
      • it was a media generated global mass psychosis which lots of politicians and rich people would exploit to the max

      [–]brimshae 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      When I thought about it and realized that, yes I'm an Air Force vet, but I'm not black and I don't live in Tuskegee, Alabama.

      [–]Newzok 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      Towards the first lockdown. It was ridiculous and obvious the countermeasures were some kind of mind game. The censorship of dissenters also made my ears perk up.

      Now looking back, and remembering the idiotic 'only go one way through entrances/exits" with fucking guards making sure nobody used the wrong door... It's clownery. How did we comply? I mean, we had to but... How. Also I'm endlessly bitter about the vaxx pass being a way to force compliance. Because I succumbed. This is some totalitarian shit.

      [–]FuckMasks 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      When the virus was initially described, the severity of it and I seen the video clips from China of people dropping dead in empty streets, I truly believed it. I thought we'd all see who would die and who would be able to survive the virus, the truly strongest of the human race, able to adapt. But after a few weeks, when nobody was actually dying, there weren't funerals going on, the hospitals weren't overwhelmed, and people continued to insist in every media outlet that these flimsy little surgical masks and 6ft were saving lives.... I grew suspicious.

      Then their mystery cure, out of nowhere, the vaxx. I know people ALL over, we conferred on it all. Everyone seemed to notice the same things in their areas, some of course were blinded by fear, begging me to get the brand new vaxx that they didn't know anything about themselves, but trusted entirely, more than their own bodies.

      I also, at first, assumed this would wipe out much of the population and a chaos would ensue, but it seemed only the out spoken and over vaxxed were dying. All the 'important' evil creeps in big chairs were doing fine. The truth and reasons for it all were becoming obvious and numerous.

      I couldn't speak out anywhere online without being banned (Except here <3). Only outside, to neighbors, to strangers or with signs and stickers, and they could taste the truth too. The ugly truth, the covid hoax looming over all these scared, confused, healthy people. So I told every single fucking person who'd listen. STILL AM. Hope you all won't shut up about it too c;

      [–]Dunwidit 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      When their mouths started moving

      [–]Questionable 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      December 2019, when death numbers were not showing exponential growth in China via 4chan reporting. Though I didn't begin downloading and actively researching documents until 01/24/2020. That is the earliest document I have.

      [–]Saiditking 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      "THE covid lies". Can you be a little more specific? There are numerous covid conspiracy theories floating around. Some of them legitimate and some of them Cass Sunstein Q anon style bullshit misinfo. You'd have to be a complete idiot to believe EVERY covid conspiracy, some of which are contradictory.

      So which "lies" are we talking about specifically? I believe covid probably came from a lab, and this lab was probably either US or Israeli. Most of the other conspiracies are just misdirection or the result of scientifically illiterate boomers and lolberts.

      [–]panel30 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

      haven't figured it out yet

      [–]Musky 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

      All these people dying suddenly of heart attacks recently doesn't concern you?

      [–]panel30 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

      of course it does. I don't think I've figured out how far how deep it goes yet. I don't have a handle on what's really going on. Just how much is a hoax? What is going on?

      [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      [–]panel30 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      wow.

      [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      Many of us knew it was coming before COVID and tyranny escalated everything.

      [–]panel30 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      so where can one find things that aren't propaganda, part of this agenda, etc?

      [–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I've been aware of the antivaxers for decades. Whenever the next pandemic arose, they were going to be there.

      Sure enough, there they were.

      [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

      We knew it was coming long before COVID:

      https://CorbettReport.com/BigOil

      [–]JohnRaymond 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I must admit, I didn't.

      [–]chadwickofwv 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      The moment I heard about it.

      [–]chadwickofwv 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      The moment I heard about it.