Are we really supposed to believe 370,000+ Russians have fleed the country in fear of military enlistment? Since Sept 21 lol?

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[–]Mangomatt 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It's both definitely anti-Russian propaganda and perfectly reasonable. Russia's population is 150 million, of which 370k is about .25%. If you showed me a room of 400 Russians facing rumors of a draft, I'd be surprised if you couldn't find at least 1 who's so afraid of military service, is so hooked on Western media, or hates his own country so much that he'd try to leave the country or go into hiding, and maybe take his family with him.

If the US ever got into literally any military conflict, offensive or defensive, I'd expect all the leftists and degenerates refusing to fight would be ten times that percentage at the bare minimum.

Are Russians even getting that much western media anymore? I sorta thought all the media companies and the Russian Government started banning each other in escalating tit-for-tats when this all started.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I don't think it is perfectly reasonable. During the entire Vietnam war, only 20-30 thousand US draft dodgers fled to Canada, out of a population of 216 million (in 1975). The Vietnam war was extremely unpopular in the US, whereas most Russians support the war in Ukraine. It simply isn't credible that 370K (let alone 700K) have fled to escape the draft.

I think that estimates of how many draft dodgers have fled Russia are utterly exaggerated, probably by a factor of a thousand. I'd believe a couple of hundred. The rest is just "count every single person who leaves for any reason as a draft dodger, don't count people who return to Russia" -- or even just "make up a number out of thin air and attribute it to anonymous sources".

Russia's population is 150 million, of which 370k is about .25%.

Russia's population is less than half that of the USA, but most of them are not eligible for the draft. According to Wikipedia, there are 33 million men and 35 million women in Russia fit for military service. If there really were 370K draft dodgers, that would be over 0.5% of the eligible population. Over 1% if you only count males. It simply isn't credible that 1% of military age males have fled the country in a few weeks. This is "Russia will be out of fuel in two weeks" level bullshit.

[–]Herpa_Derpa_Island[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The rest is just "count every single person who leaves for any reason as a draft dodger, don't count people who return to Russia" -- or even just "make up a number out of thin air and attribute it to anonymous sources".

they're using COVID counting techniques.