Woman jailed for five years for 10 false rape claims against two men

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

with zero evidence required

That's the tricky thing about rape, there's often no evidence that proves there was a rape, or even that sex occurred if the guy is wearing a condom or doesn't ejaculate. It's one person's word against another's. Either raped women get no justice, or men are going to be falsely accused.

[–]Bigs 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There is no justice without the presumption of innocence.

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I'm in agreement, I argued long and hard against the Cosby verdict because while he seems sketchy, there's no evidence he actually raped those women, but it is a conundrum, because I wouldn't want a woman, particularly in the family, to be raped and have no recourse.

I wouldn't mind if there were affordable body cams that constantly streamed and were recorded on a private server, privacy nightmare aside. Would help with police misconduct too.

[–]Bigs 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's another horrific thing, because we seem to presume men guilty the papers often splash his name and photo all over the place, encouraging other women to come forward and join in the spoils if he's rich, and glorious victimhood either way.

They'll even hide the identify of the "victim".

You say there's rarely evidence of rape, but it's even harder to prove a false accusation. After all, you can have sex willingly and then decide to cry rape later. There's proof the man was there, proof you had sex - how do you prove consent and innocence?

That's why the presumption should always be innocent until PROVEN guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt.

Like so, so many other things lately, we seem to have lost sight of such basics?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Again I agree, but the fact remains that sometimes all there is is belief. Requiring proof means some rapes will go unpunished. Although there's no excuse for trying people in the media.

I actually went to college with a guy who was accused of rape. He was fired from his job, banned from the campus, kicked out of his apartment, inundated with death threats. It was a top news story that he was accused of rape, but then it turns out she lied, and that was a minor correction in the paper weeks later nobody saw. It was fucked.