Amnesty International says one thing about Ukraine that makes them look bad, and all liberals start foaming in the mouth and turn on them.

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[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

It didn't make Ukraine look bad, it made amnesty look like morons. How can anyone, even the UAF, set the terms for how and where they will defend against an invader?

Also I don't think you can equate, "doesn't support the ruzzia" = "liberals" or even "thinks amnesty are morons for this" = "liberals". Interesting attempt thought

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

It didn't make Ukraine look bad

Sure it did. Why do you think all these liberals are super angry? There is a designated villain in this movie, and AI just accused the non-villainous side of villainy. They went off-script. This is forbidden, and the hate is to make sure they retract what they said and only accuse the villain of villainy.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Again you're equating, doesn't support the russia means liberal, which I don't think is true. For example in the us senate, support is widely bilateral. In the UK it's a conservative issue and the left has had little input. So you're wrong about that IMO

Why do you think all these [Ukraine supporters] are super angry

For the exact reason I wrote: it's batshit insane to say that there's a right way and a wrong to defend against modor. Orcs are raping, castrating, beheading left and right - a frantic desperate fight over each and every settlement is the correct thing for Ukraine to be doing, not something a charity should criticise them for

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

So, to support Ukraine is the right thing to do? Huh?

Yaknow, the fact that the upper-class media is pushing this at every opportunity, pretty much guarantees it's a lie. Should we all support them? Think about it...do they have our best interests in mind? Or do they despise us and wish us harm?

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So, to support Ukraine is the right thing to do? Huh?

Of course it is. You can side with the russia if you want, but don't pretend there's anything "right" about rape, genocide, starvation as a weapon, concentration/filtration camps, terrorism and terrorist attacks on civilians, torture mutilation and slaughter of prisoners, using nerve gas and radiological weapons in third countries, sending undercover agents to sabotage the international criminal court, or sponsoring every fascist or divisive politician in western europe, or sending your troops to enforce provably fake election results in subordinate countries, or maintaining an off-the-books mercenary agency under a man with SS tattoos who are implicated in hundreds of human rights violations all around the world, or dropping barrel bombs and chlorine in Syria or shooting down passenger jet liners....or any of a hundred things which the ruzzians do and the ukrainians don't.

Yaknow, the fact that the upper-class media is pushing this at every opportunity, pretty much guarantees it's a lie

Well that's not going to convince me, is it. If I spun it around and said, "you can tell the russian side are lying when their exculpatory statements only get printed in their news and not ours". That's not a statement which would convince you of anything is it?

Think about it...do they have our best interests in mind? Or do they despise us and wish us harm?

Again - if I could write it the other way and it wouldn't convince you, then why do you think this would convince me? "Think about it, the russians are demonstrably harmful" is not going to convince you, so don't pull the same trick on me

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You realize Ukraine is the one with all the Nazis, right? This hasn't been a point of contention. The evidence is everywhere.

If you have a table with a Nazi and ten people talking to her, you got a table with eleven Nazis.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If you have a table with a Nazi and ten people talking to her, you got a table with eleven Nazis.

Thank you chipit that's a very interesting concept that you're sharing. I therefore trust that you'll be logically consistent and condemn the ruzzia for it's nazi groups, it's support of marine le pen, la lega, alternative fur deutschland, austrian freedom party, geert wilders, aaron banks. You'll join me in condemning their stupid fascist Z symbol, their nazi concentration filtration camps, their unaccountable leader, their racial supremacy, their new world order, their press controls, their brutal mafia prison state which led to this nosedive into fascism.

I trust that you'll be logically consistent with the statement you insisted upon and CONDEMN the russian fascist nation. I'll give you a moment to loudly voice that condemnation - after.all, you wouldn't be logically inconsistent would you....

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No u first

Shitloads of people doing exactly that - calling [the current enemy] Nazis. Meanwhile the Ukraine Nazis get covered for by the mainstream media and they deliberately slant their coverage to throw shade on literal Nazis.

You think maybe when you're carrying water for the mainstream media, parroting their position exactly, you may have made a wrong turn somewhere.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No u first

Well you decided to come here and share that great story about ten people and a Nazi at a table - was it too much for me to assume that was a logically consistent position for you to be holding? Is your brain really so broken? What kind of marine le pen psychos are sat at your table?

You think maybe when you're carrying water for the mainstream media

If the MSM say it's raining am I supposed to pretend it's dry?

You ever worry about how you parroting ruzzian news might be a wrong turn?