Western Officials Admit Ukraine Is Crawling With CIA Personnel. The admission that NATO powers are so involved in operations against a nuclear superpower means we are closer to seeing a nuclear exchange than anyone should be comfortable with.

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[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

American values are under attack and America stands up for it's values, period. If you don't like living in the same world as the free USA, go live on a different planet.

If you just want to take the 100% selfish view, go look at why Woodrow Wilson joined world war 1. He knew that if the west lost the war, America would be frozen out of all the world's coming trade blocs, they'd be alone with noone to sell Fords and pineapples to. If the west loses today, America's world will get smaller and smaller (with no Taiwanese microchips to play video games on to pass the time).

I don't care about your Biden conspiracy theories, all I care about is watching Putin's new world order come crumbling down around him as America and traditional western values win the 21st century.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

We've had a decade of looking at images like this. If it's so important, go pick up a rifle and get out there.

We're sick of war. The idea of kids, just young American kids going to war for Europe when it won't even pick up and spend the money to arm itself is even more sickening to me now than ever. The same voices that screeched for us to invade Iraq are the ones that want a new war in Ukraine now.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I don't care who was in favour of Iraq war and what they're saying now. Maybe you should pay less attention to those people if you think they're "screeching". And I have no idea about the image you linked or what point it's supposed to make.

Americans aren't heading to war in Europe and they aren't going to. The CIA are there doing just normal CIA things. So I don't know what you're complaining about. American weapons were designed to destroy orcish rapists and now they're fulfilling their purpose without spilling a drop of American blood - it's fantastic, you should be happy that American boys are safe and sound, because you wrote about how sick of war you are.

Hey maybe if you're sick of war you should direct that sickness towards the genocidal orc rampage. Today they blew up a supermarket with ~1000 people inside, but you're not angry at them? Maybe the anger you feel at warmongers would be better directed at the facists mongering a war right now - almost suspicious how they don't earn a single drop of your ire, yet you pretend you're anti-war. And you wrote about all the lies -

How many Ukraine lies have been exposed so far?

Why aren't you annoyed at all the warmongering lies I posted above? Doesn't it annoy you when the government lies to start a war? If so aren't you pissed off with the facists right now?

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

We're supposed to get angry with the people the US government is telling us to get angry with? How stupid do you think we are?

The US government is the world's largest mass murderer. They killed 500,000 children in Iraq - before the war started. Here's Madeline Albright (a Jew) making a full confession on video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYagQuqK31s

Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: "We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?"

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: "I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it."

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

the US government is telling us

Nobody is telling me anything. Today the facists blew up a shopping center and left civilians who were buying food as charred lumps of coal. That makes me angry. I didn't need someone to tell me to be angry, I just was, because my brain works normally. Likewise I was angry at the Kramatorsk train station attack or when they released nerve gas in UK and put people in hospital - that made me angry without anyone needing to intervene.

How stupid do you think we are?

How stupid are you for NOT getting angry just because the Russian government told you not to be.

killed 500,000 children in Iraq -

And did it make you angry? Clearly it didn't, because all the facist crimes happening this year haven't made you upset with the facists, so I don't know why you bring up this whataboutism. You're totally fine with mass slaughter, admit it.

Here's Madeline Albright (a Jew)

Go fuck yourself for the Jew comment. Here's what she later wrote about the incident in her book Madam Secretary.

I must have been crazy; I should have answered the question by reframing it and pointing out the inherent flaws in the premise behind it. Saddam Hussein could have prevented any child from suffering simply by meeting his obligations…. As soon as I had spoken, I wished for the power to freeze time and take back those words. My reply had been a terrible mistake, hasty, clumsy and wrong. Nothing matters more than the lives of innocent people. I had fallen into the trap and said something I simply did not mean. That was no one’s fault but my own. (p. 275)

She says those comments were a mistake.

But it shouldn't matter. Because you don't care about the murder of children in Ukraine, so I don't think you care about the murder of Iraqi children.

And what, am I the Iraq guy now? Since when?

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You're totally fine with mass slaughter, admit it.

You're defending someone who defended the mass slaughter of 500,000 children. A powerful person who doesn't need internet commenters to jump to her defense. Instead, defend the little guy. You know, like dead children.

Saddam didn't starve those children to death, US sanctions did. US sanctions kill millions all over the planet. They're a form of illegal siege warfare. We can't affect what other countries do, but we CAN affect our own.

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Bruh we already established. You loved it when the Mariupol theatre was bought down with children inside. You loved it when the Kramatorsk train station attack killed evacuating children. Why are you pretending that dead Iraqi children matter in your world. We can see where you stand on the matter of baby killing.

It's clearly bad faith debating tactic to pretend like you care about children when you don't. You're the one who keeps steering conversation away from the slaughter in Ukraine, towards some whataboutism. Just face up to the topic at hand: at least Madeline Albright showed some remorse later on. You don't feel anything about the children Putin has killed.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You loved it when the Mariupol theatre was bought down with children inside. You loved it when the Kramatorsk train station attack killed evacuating children. Why are you pretending that dead Iraqi children matter in your world. We can see where you stand on the matter of baby killing.

Now you are just straight up lying.

You don't feel anything about the children Putin has killed.

You can read minds! Wow, that's amazing! Say, can you do it again? Can you tell me what I had for breakfast?

[–]Site_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is what you wrote

We're supposed to get angry with the people the US government is telling us to get angry with? How stupid do you think we are?

The US government is the world's largest mass murderer. They killed 500,000 children in Iraq

You had every chance to condemn the murder of children in Mariupol and Kramatorsk, committed by Russia, but you haven't. Yet you demand I talk about some 20 year old mistakes by someone other nation entirely. What other conclusion can a person make?

Now you are just straight up lying

Isn't it true that you didn't care about the dead and displaced ukranians? Why would I conclude otherwise from your comments?

We're supposed to get angry with the people the US government is telling us to get angry with?

You're not angry. You're not angry about the dead children. So stop pretending otherwise

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It was grain cereal. You're not a mind-reader, so stop telling other people what they think. Your bad faith interaction has been noted.