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[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's obvious that our oligarchs hate Russia and our media can't be trusted. But that doesn't mean that the opposite of the propaganda must be true. Russia is invading another country. They are the aggressor and that makes them the bad guys.

Obviously Ukraine is another corrupt illegitimate government, but those in power there didn't wage war to get that power.

If Russia were truly a great place to live that fact would come out through social media. Information can't be totally suppressed. But it seems to me that most Russians are relatively poor, while thier oligarchs have a lot of super yachts. That is not a healthy society. There seem to be a lot of ghettos in Russia with very few middle and upper middle class places.

I'm sure there is a lot there to criticize, even if I know better than to trust western media.

[–]portace 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Obviously Ukraine is another corrupt illegitimate government, but those in power there didn't wage war to get that power.

A violent, CIA-backed coup is kind of like a mini-civil war though. Followed by years of massacring pro-Russian pundits.

It's basically the same method of operation every time. Infiltrate the media, spread propaganda, control information, install stooges as revolutionary leaders, then incite a violent protest to overthrow the existing government.

I would say that Putin's response to the expanding NWO wasn't the smart one and military invasion should be the last resort. Another prolonged war is exactly what the US establishment wants and there are factions within the establishment that want WWIII.