Canada, the country some US "progressives" think has a better social care system (yet its spending is below the OECD average), started providing "free" euthanasia to poor people. The regime is getting impoverished people to kill themselves.

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[–]AcceleratedWallops 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Canada beats us on health metrics as well as education...

[–]HiddenFox 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Depends on the metrics you look at. As u/horrux said, going on 4 years for an appointment for Lyme disease.

[–]portace 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Sounds kind of like bullshit. My family members and I haven't had any problems. We got two major surgeries in the last 5 years, including one during the pandemic. Neither were emergency surgeries and they were all scheduled within around 3 months.

If Horrux's testimony is true, maybe he should have just been more persistent or gone to see another doctor. You need referrals for a lot of family doctors, but there are also open clinics which pretty much get the job done.

The problem with the law in question isn't about the law's intent. Assisted suicide for ppl suffering who are about to die and WANT to end it isn't exactly a horrible concept. The problem is that people who are poor and unable to pay for out of pocket expenses for their illnesses are choosing to die. The article argues that Canada doesn't have enough social care spending.

Lack of social care/programs is a problem a ton of countries face. The better countries probably consist of the Scandinavian countries.

[–]chottohen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And Japan, where the pension and medical care are excellent if you're old but sucks for the younger idiots (Sorry, but it's true.). Nearly 30% of the 126 million Japanese are 65 or older and that's why, like Canada, they are desperately trying to kill us off.

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds kind of like bullshit. My family members and I haven't had any problems.

The plural of anecdote is not data.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lyme disease is one of these "rare" and "new" and not fully recognized conditions that, at least here in Québec, have very few specialists that are able to manage correctly. It requires specialists and there is little to no funding for education about it in the medical field.

Also, healthcare is a provincial competence. And here in Québec, the crime gangs are the government, no decency, giving zero fucks, etc.

Either way "I had a flu and was able to get treated, and same for my broken leg" in Ontario or whichever other province doesn't mean what I'm writing isn't true, mr. "sounds like bullshit". You smell like it, more like.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Because fake illnesses go to the back of the queue.

[–]StillLessons 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I no longer trust official "metrics" anywhere in the world. Too many games going on from all governments. Who counts always determines the "metric" they arrive at.

[–]chottohen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All right, we need more input from you. Never believe anything your government tells you.

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's why I typically look at Legatum, since it's not any government

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

"Us"? Who is this "us" you speak of?

And why trying to change the subject?

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Us is the US of A.

And did you mean something else by "social care system"?

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It's just odd you said "us" without bothering to explain who "us" is. Bolivians? Taiwanese? It could have been anyone.

And honestly it came off like at attempt to derail the conversation from Canada's murdering of poor people into a different argument. This is a tactic commonly used by hired social media influencers. Of course you aren't one, despite behaving identically.

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sounds like you're trying to change the subject.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The topic is Canada murdering poor people with euthanasia. Discuss.

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No comment, since I have not researched this topic. My comments were geared to the editorialized part of your post regarding social welfare.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Only the ignorant murikkkans say "us" while expecting to be understood, because Americans are so ignorant that they don't actually believe in other nations and inherently and subconsciously believe the Internet is a USA phenomenon, and of course, that they are "the greatest nation on Earth" while in fact it is only the most degenerate.

But I agree with your response, pointing out the hubris, conceit and shortsightedness implicit in the comment.