Stop The Denial: Ukraine Is A Proxy War That Will Lead To Wider World War. They want regime change in Moscow just like the regime change they engineered in Kiev back in 2014...just like Kosovo, Iraq, Libya, etc. It's what they do.

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[–]StillLessons 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I like that last part of the title: "It's what they do."

It never occurs to them to ask "Let's say we get rid of Putin... what comes next?" Because the examples where they managed to achieve the elimination of their hated agent (e.g. Iraq and Libya) worked out so well? So they want a shitshow like what they have achieved in Libya, but this one with a nuclear stockpile in the midst of it? That's a brilliant idea, guys...

[–]Chipit[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The idea was to eliminate a problem (a threat to Israel, Khadaffy's gold-backed dinar that threatened the French franc). They don't know and don't care what happens next. It's not their concern.

[–]StillLessons 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

An unstable nuclear-armed country is everybody's concern, even their own. If they have two functioning neurons between them, even they can see that. I'm no longer convinced, however, that they possess said neurons...

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's probably part of a depopulation plan, where Putin nukes the West using Hypersonics. Slow missiles are easy to intercept, and that's all that NATO has so far. Hypersonics are unstoppable.

So while most people are brainwashed into believing the M.A.D. doctrine from the 1960s, in reality a good missile defense system (which Russia certainly has) plus hypersonics (which Russia has and is putting the finishing touches to their arsenal of these) allows Putin a first strike on the West from which no retaliatory strike can actually cause major damage.

Sure, Russia might lose a few cities or military bases. But that is nothing compared to what their arsenal of nukes can do to the West. Because of this, it seems very likely that Putin believes he can win an all-out nuclear war. Whether he actually would or not is besides the point: if Putin believes he can win it, it is likely to happen.

Given how much provokation the West has been performing on the Russian Federation, I find it more and more likely that it will. And the shitheads at the WEF be like "Kill 5 billion people, we're fine with this. Finally some free space."

If it's not all part of a depopulation plan, and Putin is actually a traitor to the NWO, then it's "just" Putin saying "hell no" to Western evil and degeneracy. It all boils down to the same conclusion: the West is provoking Russia into obliterating it.

Kick the Russian bear so many times in the nuts and give him no other recourse, yeah he'll do it.

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TIL protests leading to an election is regime change.

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The 2014 regime change was engineered by the US. We have a US diplomat on tape, deciding what kind of government Ukraine would have afterwards. Remember that one? The one where she said "Fuck the EU"? It was big news. Just search for fuck the EU Nuland and it's all over the place.

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Right, holding an election is now regime change. Crazy world.

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The audio of the evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2XNN0Yt6D8

The assistant US secretary of state, Victoria Nuland, has apologised after her phone conversation about the political crisis in Ukraine was leaked on the internet. The call between Nuland and a US ambassador focused on the future of the country if it gains a new government. Nuland declined to comment on 'private diplomatic conversations'

Transcript: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

I think we're in play. The Klitschko [Vitaly Klitschko, one of three main opposition leaders] piece is obviously the complicated electron here. Especially the announcement of him as deputy prime minister and you've seen some of my notes on the troubles in the marriage right now so we're trying to get a read really fast on where he is on this stuff. But I think your argument to him, which you'll need to make, I think that's the next phone call you want to set up, is exactly the one you made to Yats [Arseniy Yatseniuk, another opposition leader]. And I'm glad you sort of put him on the spot on where he fits in this scenario. And I'm very glad that he said what he said in response.

Nuland: Good. I don't think Klitsch should go into the government. I don't think it's necessary, I don't think it's a good idea.

Here are foreign government officals arranging Ukraine's government and deciding who should and shouldn't be in it. Does that sound democratic to you?

Backgrounder on Viceroy Nuland and her history of starting wars and meddling in foreign governments that don't concern her: https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/25/basic-notes-on-victoria-fuck-the-eu-nuland/

In that year, while Nuland built support for the coup in Kiev (Feb. 18 to 21), she boasted openly that the U.S. had invested $5 billion in supporting “the Ukrainian people’s European aspirations.” (This referred to the support of some Ukrainians for the violent overthrow of the democratically elected president, Viktor Yanukovych, on the basis of his alleged pro-Russian policies and his opposition to European Union affiliation under the conditions the EU was then offering.) To state the matter honestly: the U.S. spent $5 billion to install a government in Kiev that would request NATO membership (ostensibly to protect it from always-aggressive, always expanding Russia) and bind it forever to the U.S. military-industrial complex and “Free World.”

Nuland worked with Oleh Tyahnybok, head of the neo-Nazi Svoboda Party (and one of the three leaders Nuland ordered Pyatt to keep in touch with) and the Right Sector militia. Both glorify Stephan Bandera, the Ukrainian fascist leader who aided the Nazis in rounding up Ukrainian Jews during the war. Tyahnybok publicly inveighs against the “Moscow-Jewish mafia ruling Ukraine.”

When Congressman Dana Rohrbacher Nuland in a hearing soon after the coup was asked whether there had been any neo-fascists on the Maidan she refused to answer the question, stating there were “mothers, grandmothers, and veterans…all colors of Ukraine, including ugly colors” on the Maidan.

[–]TarBaby 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://youtu.be/Yq7FKO5DlV0