Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight"

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[–]jet199 14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Meanwhile transmen are running to the border as fast as they can.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They want the rights that supposedly come with that so-called male privilege, but none of the responsibilities.

[–]HiddenFox 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

Amazing how things like trans rights tend to be tossed aside when real trouble is upon a society...

[–]Vulptex 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

Interesting how women are still treated as actual human beings while men are tossed aside and made slaves.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Yeah, it's so hard for men 🥺

You need a reality check. Who's going to care for the children if all the women go to war too?

And do you really want women fighting on the front lines?

Men and women are different. We have different roles. This is not a men's rights issue.

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    [–]Vulptex 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

    Like they don't already. They still expect the man to do everything for them, or he's a pig. They just want the few traditional benefits men get, but without earning them. They expect to be paid the same for working less. They expect to be respected without having done anything. They expect men to fulfill all their traditional obligations but cry sexism when the same is expected of them. They expect to be allowed to vote but not be eligible for draft, while still expecting men to sign up for it. They want to be financially independent, but still expect their man to pay for everything. They don't care about equality, they just hate men and want women to be handed everything on a golden platter. They want all the rights and none of the responsibilities. And men just go along with it because women look cute and innocent, and ooooh, it might mean a chance to get laid!

    [–]RedEyedWarrior 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    That’s the problem right there. All the rights, none of the responsibilities. They want it all, and don’t seem to realise that they cannot have everything.

    This is why I believe that unless you serve in the military for two years, you should not be allowed to vote or run for office.

    [–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I wouldn't say you should have to serve, but if there is a draft you should have to be signed up for it. That being said the existence of a draft or government in the first place is problematic.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Not sure what feminism has to do with this conversation.

    [–]Vulptex 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Who's going to care for the children if all the women go to war too?

    Not all women have children, not all children have mothers, not all mothers care for kids, and not all fathers don't.

    And do you really want women fighting on the front lines?

    That idea bothers you because they matter to you while men don't. It's no different even in natural disasters. Women matter to you and men are just a tool. You see women as people and men as assets. Why is this okay? Why is it the end of the world when women suffer the slightest injustice but treating men as subhuman is righteousness? I don't know what the archons are trying to do with this.

    Men and women are different. We have different roles.

    And one sucks and the other is to live life.

    This is not a men's rights issue.

    It absolutely is. How can we just stand by and let this happen? "It is right because it is" seems to be the logic of the day. If everything that exists is right, how can there be anything bad at all? Or are we going to pretend there's nothing bad in the world, and that everything is perfect?

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I don't know how to respond because you kind of just made a barrage of incorrect assumptions about what I think from the start.

    When I asked about women fighting on the front lines, it wasn't because I value women more than men. I was more implying that it wouldn't be a good idea because women are not as physically strong as men and thus less useful in this situation.

    But your idea that women have it great while men's lives suck is laughable. Men and women have been subject to slavery from the beginning of time. The ways in which it has been perpetrated has varied. I'm assuming you're aware of sex slavery and women practically being used as incubators. The more modern version of this dynamic is that men are expected to work and provide and women are expected to care for kids and maintain the household. Both are coerced into adopting roles they may or may not desire, and both sides will also probably argue incessantly about which is "worse."

    The war between men and women and who has it worse is quite frankly retarded. Both sides endlessly cry about how they're the real victims, when in reality humanity has been wretched to both.

    [–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Sex slavery isn't considered acceptable at all. All the exploitations of men are. And in fact sexual abuse is only considered bad when men do it, when women do it it's okay apparently, if we're even willing to admit that they're capable of such evils.

    And with regards to military service...there are plenty more jobs other than the ones that require macho man strength. The real reason we're unwilling to put a woman in any position of danger is because her death is far more tragic to our primal minds, as well as any trauma or harship induced. The response to a woman's cry is similar to a child's, to rush to help. The response to a man's cry is telling him to "get over it and shut up". There is a clear difference in how much we care about women vs men.

    I think women were too overprotected and silenced and treated like children in the past, but we're over that. And they still get all the benefits of being treated that way and get to have their cake and eat it too.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    "Humanity"

    (((scum))) and their traitorous goons would be better, IMO

    [–]RedEyedWarrior 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Unfortunately, that’s the way it is. Men cannot get pregnant, so we’re seen as valuable.

    It’s like we as humans are cattle. Most male calves are slaughtered or castrated whilst the strongest calves become bulls, because only one bull is required to service 10 cows. Cows produce calves and milk, so they are seen as more valuable. Just like that, a man can get multiple women pregnant. So it’s considered less of a societal loss if it’s mostly men who die in a war.

    This discrimination was balanced out by the rule that only men were allowed to vote. Now both sexes can vote. My solution to this discrepancy is to only allow people who have served in the military for at least two years to vote.

    [–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    There's nothing we can do but lie here helplessly.

    [–]RedEyedWarrior 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    If society collapses, which is an increasingly likely scenario, the mighty will have more power. If we play our cards right, we can implement a law that makes military service a prerequisite for suffrage, for both sexes.

    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Same with veganism

    [–]RedEyedWarrior 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Because it’s theatre. When shit hits the fan, society stops pretending, because liberals are no longer comfortable enough to invest that amount of mental energy that is required to pretend.

    [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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      [–]Tiwaking 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      shzprm 3 insightful - 2 fun - 3 hours ago it's ma'am!

      TAKE IT OUTSIDE! IF YOU WANT TO SEE A SIR I WILL SHOW YOU A FUCKING SIR!

      [–]Vulptex 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

      Why are only men ever enslaved to these things? Society clearly hates them and they've got infinite debts to pay for merely existing.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

      You don't understand nature.

      [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      I understand it too well.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      Dude, no. You are mentally ill and need help.

      Please, you suffer needlessly. You hate being a man and a human.

      You DO NOT understand nature at all.

      [–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      I can't unsee what I've seen, and I can't unknow what I know. The vast majority of the world suffers needlessly because the archons are sadists. And there is no end to mine as long as I'm here. Life is evil, and the only good things allowed are part of a master plan of bad things. Joy is allowed for a moment only so that it can be taken away. Lucky and perfect people exist solely to make the rest jealous. Everything is scripted and set up purposely by demons as they have fun driving us insane. Like dictators they act deceptively loving and pleasant to us, and most people fall for their trap. If you die and see a light or anything else, resist because it is a trap. And if dead people, angels, deities, God, or anything else you trust appears, it is not actually them.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      You aren't addressing anything I said. You go on and on about the archons and the light at the end of the tunnel. You know no more about life or death than the Gnostics who wrote that stuff. Maybe you are right, but how can you test this? Why not garnering inner strength rather than floundering in despair? If your enemies are real, maybe they are, then you play right into their hands, you sad sad man.

      Science can explain these things. Science can offer a way out. Take your filters off and learn more about Nature. The mind is a realm unto itself, and yours has become a labyrinth of self-defeat.

      [–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Science can't save me, even if it can help me a little. Reality is a prison and the only solution is to escape. I'm sorry but it's the truth, there's no denying it.

      There is a lot of evidence for archons. I doubt people everywhere would hallucinate the exact same things by coincidence. And it makes sense and explains a lot.

      [–]ShalomEveryone 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      They are biologically men, glad to see Ukraine is making their men of fighting age stay and defend their land.

      Shalom

      ✡️

      [–]jw329 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

      I would not want to fight along side with a trans women. They are not men nor women. They are trans.

      I'm sure the hormones make them weaker as well.

      [–]jet199 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

      Of course they are men.

      Putting on a dress doesn't change your biology.

      [–]jw329 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

      male & female is just a label.

      If you want to talk biology then they there is only 2 genders xy and xx.

      I would not want to fight along side with an xy who wears a dress and has tits. They make terrible soldiers.

      Frankly, fuck Ukraine for trying to block anyone who does not want to fight for their shitty country weather xy or xx

      [–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Literally everyone here is the product of one male and one female.

      Not a label at all.

      [–]HiddenFox 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      My only disagreement is that just because they make terrible soldiers doesn't mean they shouldn't have to fight. I would make a terrible soldier but I would still be forced to fight...

      [–]jw329 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      if you were others to force you to do things then you are a retard

      no one should be forces to do anything they do not want to do, even retard like you

      [–]HiddenFox 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      If we are not forcing people to fight who would you propose fights the Russians then?

      [–]jw329 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      come on man wake the fuck up. I just told you. You dont force anyone to fight which means.......the people in ukraine who are willing to fight will be the ones fighting the russians. Doesnt take a rocket science to figure that out?

      What if no one wants to fight? then russia wins

      why dont you go over and fight for ukraine if you care that much sitting around on saidit aint gonna accomplish anything

      [–]CleverFoolOfEarth 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      They are male but they are not men. Men have honor. These at best are boys that never grew up, and at worst are brutish apes who have rejected or forgotten what it is to be a man.

      [–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      How can you not reject a system that treats you as nothing more than an asset? Why be exploited? Why blindly obey? You say they are boys that never grew up, why is it that only they have to grow up but not women? Women are like the youngest golden favorite child who can do no wrong, and men are like the oldest brother who has all the responsibilities and gets punished and blamed for everything.

      [–]CleverFoolOfEarth 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I believe women have responsibilities too and that it is a tragedy that so many shirk them, just different responsibilities than men. However, as averages apply to populations rather than individuals, if in a time of crisis a man wants to care for the defenseless left uncared for or a woman wants to fight, go for it, but whoever in a time of crisis ignores both duties, as let's face it we all know that most troons, of either sex, would, then they are not man nor woman nor even whatever made-up wizard wheeze they think they are, but a cowardly little monkey going ook ook ook and scurrying up a tree.

      [–]jw329 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      brutish apes? most transgenders around the world are not brutish apes. The u.s. seems to have the most brutish apes

      I really don't give a shit how others live their lives. The transgenders are not the problem. It's the government who is the brutish apes. They are the ones running the public school teaching them trans stuff. Get rid of government schools and trans kids will significantly go down

      [–]hfxB0oyA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      But it does change your sanity. Send them to the very front of the front lines, away from useful people.

      [–]RedEyedWarrior 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

      Nah, they’re men. They have Y chromosomes and penises. Even runts get conscripted during wartime.

      [–]jw329 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

      Well you go have fun fighting with trannies and runts. I will be on a beach in another country. Fights wars is for retards

      [–]RedEyedWarrior 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      No war for me. I’ll be relaxing in the fields and beaches of Ireland. We don’t force people here to fight in conflicts we don’t want to fight.

      [–]jw329 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      Who's we? You mean the government? You have no say whether or not to send people to fight in your country. You have no power.

      Isn't the ireland government letting in ukraine refugees into the country. Again ireland doesnt give a shit about what you think. When the time comes they would force you to fight for your shitty country. A country you have no say and must pay taxes or they come put you in prison. By the way most taxes and property taxes is theft. You never truly own your own land. So when you money runs out the government take your land

      [–]RedEyedWarrior 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Oh god, you’re right. I remember now. And most people around me simply don’t see it.

      EDIT: If Ireland forces people to go to war in Ukraine, I will play up my disability. If it doesn’t work, I’d rather go to prison.

      [–]jw329 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Make sure you teach your son that or send your son to another country to hide while the wars happens. They will also try sending your son to to die in a fake political war.

      [–]RedEyedWarrior 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I don’t have children. But if I had a son, we’d move to a South American country. South American countries don’t give a shit about the Ukraine conflict.

      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      THIS supposed viewpoint by anonymous person:

      The paper quoted a trans woman who shared her experience at the hands of the guards: "They are men...they must turn back and fight."

      Is absolutely NOT this:

      Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees

      [–]Tiwaking 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Their reasoning might sour some trans activists in the West: Ukraine's martial law requires all biological males between the ages of 18 and 60 to remain in the country and fight. And it makes no exceptions for trans women.

      NO EXCEPTIONS

      TROONS ARE NOT WOMEN

      [–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Why isn't the double standard on men in the first place souring anyone?

      [–]RandumbZer0 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Mental Illness should be treated, never coddled.. or armed?

      [–]buffalo_fart_the_IV 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Watch out Nickolai here comes the stump platoon

      [–]SaidOverRed 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      You mean "men pretending to be women"

      [–]yabbit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      So much for trans women are women amirite?