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[–]WhoFlu 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But given that during that week, there was a population of 1,764,589 vaccinated vs a population of only 493,460 unvaccinated, the percentage of admissions within each group yields a significantly greater advantage to the 2-jab vaccinated - 85/1,764,589 = 0.005% vs 70/493,460 = 0.014%.

it appears the unvaccinated have about 3 times the risk of being admitted relative to their vaccinated cohort.

Numbers that small are effectively a rounding error. In the US, apparently hospitals typically test every unvax'd person for covid, but not the vax'd, and they count any positive test as a "covid hospitalization." Unfortunately with covid, I've seen far to many statistics turn out to be highly misleading, which is why I generally view everything with a degree of skepticism.

What I will say is even if we "trust the experts" we're still seeing data that suggests the vax's have little effectiveness after 6-8 months. So, we might say there's a short term "benefit" from a pure covid-numbers perspective (ignoring vax-injuries), but then you realize the vax strategy is endless "booster shots," where each booster adds to the side-effect risk in exchange for short-term protection.

[–]StillLessons 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I agree with everything you write here, particularly the problem with "endless boosters". We should not be following a strategy that attempts to substitute vaccinated immunity for natural immunity. Vaccinologists will never be able to keep up with an ever rapidly-changing virus. Our body's natural immune systems (absent vaccination adjustment) have been fighting "the germ war" a lot longer (longer even than humanity itself) and will be infinitely more adaptable as the fight continues than the feeble attempts of the best Scientifictm minds. The risks that for-profit Scientiststm will actually fuck up our natural immunity in their clumsy efforts to "enhance" it are serious and should concern us greatly.

[–]WhoFlu 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

attempts to substitute vaccinated immunity for natural immunity.

I've recently been seeing claims that there is a literal substitution. In other words, the vaccine "immunity" replaces and weakens the natural immunity. I'm still waiting on a little more confirmation, as I reserve skepticism for "all sides" but it's something I'm keeping an eye on.

I'm also a math-guy, and while it's hard to get good, accurate numbers, I'm starting to suspect that 12-months after vaccination (and assuming no boosters) that immunity will be worse than if you hadn't been injected at all. The short story is that after about 6-8 months, the efficacy starts to look almost identical to an un-vax'd person. However, we also have to remember how averages work.

I'm going to use fake numbers to illustrate here, but lets say we have 3 unvax'd people with a "Resistance" of 9, 10, and 11. They have an average of 10 resistance. Lets say we have 3 vax'd people, and their resistance is 15, 10, and ?? ... and their average is 10. That last number has to be "5" to bring the average across all 3, to 10. Unfortunately, the booster shots & lack of good data is going to make it difficult for us to actually get the kind of data which would prove or disprove my suspicions.

Vaccinologists will never be able to keep up with an ever rapidly-changing virus.

I always heard we would never really be able to make a virus vax growing up. I'm not a believer in "never" but, it does seem VERY odd to me that we'd suddenly have a vax virus now, and in such a short time, even if you throw massive amounts of resources at the problem.

I'm a software engineer, and there's a concept where if you throw more and more resources and people at a problem, it actually makes progress slower, because you start introducing overhead and increasingly complex communication channels.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks%27s_law

I'd have to imagine that vaccine R&D is quite similar.

The risks that for-profit Scientiststm will actually fuck up our natural immunity in their clumsy efforts to "enhance" it are serious and should concern us greatly.

People like Bret Weinstein predicted quite a while ago that the vaccines would effectively produce variants, and that we'd naturally see covid become more infectious but less deadly. Effectively, the whatever variants the vaccine doesn't resist will become the predominant variants.

There's a rather large risk that these mass experiments into MRNA could cause all kinds of short, medium, and long term consequences we don't understand very well. We've already seen some of that with neurological effects, death, myocarditis, blood-clots, Endometrial cancer, miscarriages, bells palsy, and more ... and these are just the early side-effects. Endometrial cancer for example is one that is:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/endometrial-cancer/symptoms-causes/syc-20352461

Endometrial cancer is often detected at an early stage because it frequently produces abnormal vaginal bleeding. If endometrial cancer is discovered early, removing the uterus surgically often cures endometrial cancer.

Isn't that interesting, it's DETECTED EARLY. Many other cancers can take years to develop before there are any signs of cancer.