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[–]StillLessons[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've considered the "convergent interests" hypothesis, but there is one serious problem with it: they are destroying the engine which creates the wealth they would want to make. I don't think they're unaware of the effect Covid is having in the destruction of the economy, because every time somewhere manages to avoid this side effect, that place become enemy number 1 on their list. It sure appears they want to destroy the US economically.

Another possibility - which I have still not ruled out - is that the "leadership elite" are in truth stupid enough not to recognize that they cannot simultaneously enact a control system which is already eviscerating wealth-generation at warp speed and control the wealth they became accustomed to under the very system they are so thoroughly destroying. We may simply be watching human ignorance and stupidity distilled to a more pure form than ever before in history.

[–]StrategicTactic 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think you misunderstand the difference between wealth and money. Money only has the value we ascribe to it. Wealth is much more and can be measured in both monetary value and things. The money they create is used to buy things- such as Willie Gates buying up farmland. A person with a sustainable food supply is one of the wealthiest people in a collapse. If you add on a private group that can manage such land and another to protect it, you potentially have a seed for a new country, complete with the leadership. The key in having something like this is counting on the failure of all other groups. It wouldn't matter if you get a small Ancapistan going if it is surrounded by 3 major compliant cities that are about to starve.

As for the US in particular, I think the anti-US rhetoric we are hearing, from communism to "patriot" being labeled hate speech is plenty to identify that as a definite goal. The individualistic nature of Americans has always been a problem for those seeking to conquer it, and such conquest is one of the first necessary steps to creating a world government.

I too wouldn't discount ignorance, but I also do not think that such is the driving factor for every group. There are certainly people who can see what is happening- as evidenced by forums like this.

[–]StillLessons[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Actually, your first three sentences argue for precisely my point. I absolutely agree that money itself is just a construct. What they are actively destroying, however, is the production of true wealth. As long as we are locked down, divided, at war, etc, it is precisely the true wealth which suffers. There will be infinite money as shit goes down, but nothing to buy.

Your idea about buying up essentially the land for "a new country", that's interesting. I hadn't thought of it that way.

I fully agree the anti-US rhetoric is about crushing the entire concept of individual autonomy. That part of the plan is clear. They want a hive to run, not a place where the worker bees have any control whatsoever over our own lives. This is a philosophical point on which they could not be clearer. What terrifies me is that there may be enough people willing to live as they want people to live, that they could get away with this. If they can mobilize the mindless drones against individual autonomy (the purpose of Antifa, for example), I pray there are enough people on the other side of that equation.