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[–]ReeferMadness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

rescue people in eastern Ukraine from the illegal regime

This is not a difference in opinion, it is absolutley absurd propaganda.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Do you not agree that elements in our state department were sent to Ukraine to collapse the elected government, through fomenting riots and hiring snipers to kill police and rioters alike? Rememberer "cookies" Nuland?

The illegal regime that they helped grab the country then began murdering ethnic Russians in Ukraine, much of which had literally been Russia before being assigned to Ukraine as an internal region adjustment.

Learn some history instead of just automatically siding with the Nazis. Sure, you might think "Nazis are great!", but these are not the German Nazis from the 30s and 40s.

[–]ReeferMadness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm sure Russia was also playing politics in Ukraine, that they lost does not make the Ukrainian government less legitimate than if they had won.

As for the Russians being murdered, that is propaganda. I have never seen any evidence of that and if it exists the it should have been used to unseat the government. If Russia wanted to "rescue" them they would repatriate them.

They were always there to be pawns in a turf war. And as such any claims of thier harm should be taken with a huge grain of salt.

Imagine if china wanted to invade New York because Chinese nationals were being attacked by blacks. What an absolutely retarded concept. That is literally what you are justifying. Russia has no right to crimea. They are an invading army and the world has a right to declare war on them over that. The world has an interest in stopping all territorial conquests.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As for the Russians being murdered, that is propaganda. I have never seen any evidence of that

Then you haven't looked. But good luck trying to find those on the censored internet now. Remember when that Ukrainian mob chased those Russians into that building, then set it on fire? There were many less dramatic cases where ethnic Russians were killed, or just beaten.

That is literally what you are justifying.

You're just saying that because you have little knowledge of the history, or even what went down in 2014. Unfortunately for you, assuming you want to know what really happened, you have little chance of getting an uncensored or unbiased look at it now.

Russia has no right to crimea.

Crimea was Russian, most of the people are Russian, and they overwhelmingly voted to GTFO of the grasp of their tormentors.

Where are you getting all this false information?

[–]ReeferMadness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm sure Russia was also playing politics in Ukraine, that they lost does not make the Ukrainian government less legitimate than if they had won.

As for the Russians being murdered, that is propaganda. I have never seen any evidence of that and if it exists it should have been used to unseat the government. If Russia wanted to "rescue" them they would repatriate them.

They were always there to be pawns in a turf war. And as such any claims of thier harm should be taken with a huge grain of salt.

Imagine if china wanted to invade New York because Chinese nationals were being attacked by blacks. What an absolutely retarded concept. That is literally what you are justifying. Russia has no right to crimea. They are an invading army and the world has a right to declare war on them over that. The world has an interest in stopping all territorial conquests.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They are an invading army and the world has a right to declare war on them over that. The world has an interest in stopping all territorial conquests.

So you're saying the world should declare war on the US.

[–]ReeferMadness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Maybe. For Afghanistan, Iraq, syria. But it would make more sense to declare war on Israel.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, but then you'd have to declare war on Washington and NYC too. Take out all three and we'd have a better chance of recovering our country. We can't just cut off their funds, because they run our government.

But remember you're talking about the same cabal people and minions who pulled that bullshit in Ukraine, to include Biden and a ton of others in our government. Those "color revolutions" were their signature move at the time, and the $5 billion they put into the effort has undoubtedly paid off well for them individually.

Despite those stories about Putin/Russia being complicit with the jews, israel, and 'the cabal', they come off incredibly well in comparison to most of the other actors. It's a little iffy that they have so many moslems in the south and east, but they seem to be pulling that off without too much damage to their country as a whole.

Having watched that whole show pretty closely at the time, I think it would be ideal for Russia to retake their territory back to the Dnieper River, and along the Black Sea to Transnistria. Not actually practical in cabal world, but morally right.

I'm sure there was plenty of Russian influence over Ukraine, but people from our government went in and tore that country into shreds. Now it's practically a failed state on Russia's border, which is seen as a benefit to us. By "us", I mean the warmongers in our government.