UK: Woman Jailed for 18 Weeks for Being a 'Holocaust Denier'

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[–]C3P0 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

Yikes! I thought only violent threats could send you to jail. Now, be careful what you think then say.

she mocked Jews being fashioned into lampshades, having their heads shrunk and being turned into bars of soap.

Might as well convict every horror movie script writer too.

[–]Tarrock 14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

The holocaust narrative used to have all that stuff and more like human-skin briefcases, but when all that got proven to be false, it was silently hushed.

[–]SaidOverRed 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Citation?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Citation?

I'd like to see the citation for the original claims.

[–]C3P0 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's how arguments work. The person making the claim has the burden of proof.

[–]LarrySwinger2 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

People get jailed for research into the holohoax in Europe. It's been like this for a long time.

[–]SaidOverRed 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Citation?

[–]LarrySwinger2 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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    [–]SaidOverRed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Thanks. So apparently France has full on thought crimes. Not that I'm surprised, given it's the center of leftist filth in the West.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    It's mostly just parts of Europe, and Canada and Israel where "holocaust denial" is illegal.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    Wait, is it illegal in Canada?

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Not explicitly, but it's considered to fall under the "hate speech" laws. The Zundel trial is the most famous case.

    [–]hfxB0oyA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    True, he was convicted, but the story didn't end there:

    Zündel was originally found guilty by two juries but was finally acquitted upon appeal by the Supreme Court of Canada which held in 1992 that section 181 (formerly known as section 177) was a violation of the guarantee of freedom of expression under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Wikipedia

    In the fullness of time freedom of speech won out, and this asshole was free to spout his bullshit views, just like a lot of you fine folks are right here.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    That decision found that "misinformation" wasn't a crime. They still criminalize "holocaust denial" as "hate speech". https://forward.com/fast-forward/430152/canada-holocaust-denial-editor-anti-semitism-blood-libel/

    [–]hfxB0oyA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I'm honestly okay with that, as the standard is:

    Hate speech provisions only apply to expressions that rise to the high level of “detestation” or “vilification” as previously described in R. v. Keegstra and Canada (Human Rights Commission) v. Taylor. Therefore, these provisions do not capture offensive expressions that fail to arise to “detestation” or “vilification”.