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[–]StillLessons[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There are a variety of stories. I kept it general in my post, but the specific two I was referring to are the Skripals (both of whom survived and disappeared from view into the English system) and Navalny, who is also alive and well. According to the "scary Novichok" story, this should be impossible. Do I believe Putin's government is capable of poisoning dissidents and has done so in the past? I think that's entirely possible, and some of the earlier cases (the polonium case) seem to hold up. But these cases - on their individual merits - fall apart on examination. I actually think that's part of what has happened in the Skripal/Navalny cases. Because there is a link (in the public consciousness) between "Putin" and "poison", all the propaganda folks in the west have to do is awaken that link in people's minds. Magic - people poisoned! - no proof required. But for those who do check into each case as it happens, the more recent accusations are getting rather thin.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's not always poison, they like using car bombs and good old fashioned bullets too.

[–]StillLessons[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I am open to the likelihood that the Russian power structure engages in evil. They are a large institution. I have no loyalty to them any more than any other large institution.

But perhaps especially if what you and jet199 are focusing on is true, my original post comes even more into focus. Assuming, for the sake of argument, that the Russian government does do these things, why not call them out on things that can be solidly proven? Why choose to focus on events with so many inescapable logical contradictions at the foundation of the story?

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When someone critical of the Russian government is disappeared or something happens to them, the chief suspect is naturally who stands to benefit from it. I don't think that some of the assassinations being botched makes it illogical that Russia was behind it. Not all of the US assassinations have gone swimmingly.