"We Can't Be Blackmailed": Hungary & Poland Threaten To Veto EU Stimulus Package

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'd feel a lot better about anti-abortion laws if anyone in favor of them actually cared about the child after birth.

[–]ReeferMadness 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So your entire view of this isn't about the lives of the babies, or the morality of murdering unwanted children, but about whether the other side pays a high price for what they want. That is really some of the most despicable politics I ever heard.

It is very easy to not have kids. The pregnant women are not victims. Rape and incest are a tiny minority of abortions. It's simply unreponisble, self absorbed sluts fixing their mistakes with murder.

But in your world the murder is fine because those who are against the murder aren't forced to take care of those kids instead of the people who made them. This is simply nutts.

It makes absolutely no sense to judge the validity of an argument by your perception of the altruism of the speaker.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I believe abortion is morally wrong. I didn't mean to give the impression I believed otherwise. I also believe we can, and should, do more to support unwanted children.

It's simply unreponisble, self absorbed sluts fixing their mistakes with murder.

You do like fucking don't you? General Patton famously said he didn't trust a man who won't fuck. Then he had his staff strip topless and oil themselves. Strange man.

Anyways, sometimes fucking produces a baby. It's not that the woman is an uberslut. I don't know why'd you single out the woman when it takes two to tango. That seems like an unhealthy attitude tbh.

[–]ReeferMadness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't know why'd you single out the woman when it takes two to tango. That seems like an unhealthy attitude tbh

Because the guy doesn't have a say in what happens. The girl decides if the baby is aborted, given away, or if she collects child support from the father.

I fully support forcing the father to pay child support.

Anyways, sometimes fucking produces a baby.

Birth control exists. Self control exists. Oral exists. Babies are in no way inevitable.

I also believe we can, and should, do more to support unwanted children.

But that is a separate topic and you conflated them. You made the claim that the argument against abortion is diminished because you don't think the people who fight against abortion are doing enough for needy kids. That is illogical.

And while I agree that CPS needs major reform and more funding, how that would need to be done is a huge and complex topic on its own.

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But that is a separate topic and you conflated them. You made the claim that the argument against abortion is diminished because you don't think the people who fight against abortion are doing enough for needy kids. That is illogical

I am saying that's an incredibly common complaint against pro-Lifers, it doesn't need to be logical for people to believe it.