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[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I think actually encouraging people to stand up and say they are proud of their country has some positive effect as well.

[–]wecandobetter 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I mean to become citizens, there's a lengthy education and confirmation process. No such process exists to be a refugee or a visa worker. The muslims near where I live even mostly send their children to charter schools to avoid mainstream American curriculum. Granted Catholics do the same thing, except Catholics are more patriotic than the average person (which is odd considering they used to be quite persecuted here).

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well they aren't so much going to separate schools to avoid the mainstream curriculum but to avoid their daughters mixing with boys. Where there are single sex state schools they fill up with Muslim girls. They don't care at all about their sons mixing.

But, yeah, it's the general culture more than the citizenship process. Americans are proud to be proud of their country. That's not as common in Europe.

[–]wecandobetter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The charter schools I'm familiar with are mixed-gender. But yeah I suppose. Nations are only as strong as their citizens' belief in and support for them.