Survey Finds Nearly 20% of Millennials and Gen Z in NY Believe Jews Caused the Holocaust

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[–]SaidOverRed 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

cracks neck Alright. So, honest question: do you believe the standard, basic narrative of Anne Frank (for example)? From wikipedia that is: "Following their arrest, the Franks were transported to concentration camps. In October or November 1944, Anne and her sister, Margot, were transferred from Auschwitz to Bergen-Belsen concentration camp, where they died (probably of typhus) a few months later." If not, what do you think happened and do you have some evidence for the alternative.

If you do believe the basic parts I listed, how would you classify said death? Is jailing innocent citizens and children in camps until they die not a standard 'holocaust' outcome? Surely you must have a different take to write your second line.

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

Typhus and starvation were serious war-time problems killing many, including the slaves at the work camps.

Anne Frank's diary was half written in ball point pen which wasn't invented yet. Half of her story or more is myth.

[–]SaidOverRed 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

https://www.annefrank.org/en/anne-frank/go-in-depth/authenticity-diary-anne-frank/ states fountain pen. Are there PDF scans, etc of the primary sources that will allow for better analysis than he said she said?

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

I don't have questions I need answered. Do your own research. Find diverse perspectives. Make up your own mind.

Also, AnneFrank.org likely has an agenda - to uphold the "official" narrative.

[–]SaidOverRed 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah I expect that. I was just hoping someone could link the primary sources. I realize I'll have to get a translation, but I'm not scared of textual analysis.

All dead links: https://anne-frankhistory.weebly.com/primary-sources.html :(

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Anne+Frank+diary+pen

https://wotansvolk.com/2019/06/15/why-anne-franks-diary-is-a-hoax/

[–]SaidOverRed 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Thank you. So uh, some quick legwork on the second link says "The original copy of the diary has never been released for public (sic)." The second brings this link https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/af3-ballpoint-pen/ which disagrees with what we are trying to discover.

It seems that no one has (thought to) simply do a super high quality scan to either prove or disprove the claims. :(

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

If you owned a goose that allegedly laid golden eggs, would you ever allow anyone to examine that goose?

You can build a museum around the goose, and charge lots of money to see the goose, but if anyone were to ever questions the authenticity of that goose then your cash cow might just die - if it were fake.

Maybe you know it's fake. Maybe you don't.

Would you take that risk?

[–]SaidOverRed 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I thought about that but didn't say it. Perhaps I was being optimistic that someone would sneak a look at the goose, at it were. Because I would totally let the goose be safely examined, but I grant that most people would certainly not.