Survey Finds Nearly 20% of Millennials and Gen Z in NY Believe Jews Caused the Holocaust

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[–]SaidOverRed 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

You... you forgot the 'until death part'. Marching in a band is fun. Marching until you die is not.

You're answer of 'yes' means that you consider what Germany (and the US) did to be a holocaust, which contradicts your above "'the holocaust' didn't even happen tho." But I suppose you already knew that. Congrats on the successful troll.

[–]masterclass 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

I'm curious, how many Jews do you think were killed in the holocaust, and what do you base this on? This is the primary sticking point I have with the "official" narrative.

[–]just_lesbian_things 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

how many Jews do you think were killed in the holocaust, and what do you base this on?

Why does it matter? The only time I get the exact number debate being brought up is from Holocaust deniers trying to split hairs. I was probably told the number by my history teacher or history textbook at one point or another, along with the total casualties of WW2, and the deaths caused by the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, along with a bunch of other facts and figures I memorized once for a test and promptly forgot about.

The point was, there was a pointed effort from the Nazi government to commit genocide against the Jewish people, as evidenced by policies, propaganda, and actions of the Nazi government at the time. There are sites of concentration camps, gas chambers, hundreds or thousands of photos of the corpses and survivors, as well as testimonies of people who avoided, escaped, or survived the ordeal and the people who carried out the act. Most of the Jewish people killed were not the Jewish people trying to destroy the German economy, if such a people ever existed. The German economy was suffering due to being forced to pay reparations as a result of losing WW1.

This is the primary sticking point I have with the "official" narrative

Do you also go through the casualties of every battle, every bombing to determine if they really happened? Do you think the atomic bomb was really dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Did Japan really attack pearl harbor? Did the Canadians really fight the battle of Vimy Ridge? Do you know the exact, undisputed death tolls of those events? Why are you hyper focused on this particular number and why does it matter so much?

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[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

The number is a lie.

We've been lied to all our lives on countless events and matters. This is no different.

The Holocaust was not popularized in mainstream media until the 1970s.

Both sides had concentration camps. Gas chambers were for delousing clothing in a typhus epidemic. Yes people were starving - it was war. Even the German soldiers were starving - they fled and weren't in the photos. With the hundreds of typhus victims the British bulldozers are often passed off as German.

You might appreciate my incomplete 14 key points : https://InfoGalactic.com/info/Truther_Top_20_Counter_Points_To_The_Official_Holocaust_Story

[–]just_lesbian_things 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Gas chambers were for delousing clothing in a typhus epidemic

Not according to the survivors of the camp, the operators of the camp, the Nazi regime and the American and Soviet soldiers. You know, the people who were actually there.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

The survivors are well paid to lie. The winners (Americans and Russians) get to write their winner history as they see fit.

Why are no other survivors of WWII well paid? ie. Japanese people who had their things stolen and sent to concentration camps in the USA and Canada? Survivors of the Dresden Fire Bombing? More Germans were mass murdered AFTER WWII than during it - yet many survived, obviously - and got no reparations.

Jewish supremacy includes a special type of victimhood - and a new ethnostate, Israel, stolen from the Palestinians.

[–]just_lesbian_things 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

The survivors are well paid to lie.

Evidence of this? Who paid them? How much were they paid? What did they do with the money??

Why were no other survivors of WWII well paid?

No one was paid. But Allies put effort into rebuilding Germany and Japan to ensure that the events and economic strain that led up to WW2 do not repeat itself. America gained a lot of economic benefits from the process of rebuilding as well. Even now, there are American military bases in Germany and Japan.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=German+reparations+to+Jews+after+WWII

It seems that almost every year there are more decendants of Holocaust survivors popping out of the woodwork to claim reparations with "documented evidence" that they are related to someone who once suffered.

[–]just_lesbian_things 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Why would Germany pay Jewish people to lie about the Holocaust?

[–]Velocity 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I don't take credit for this, but is a prescient observation:

Rivka Yosselevska and Ellie Wiesel claimed that they witnessed geysers of Jewish blood. Rose Toren claimed that she escaped a Gestapo massacre by falling asleep. Yanina Cywinska claimed that "Nazis" created bags of Jewish skin while they bathed with soap made out of Jewish bones.

Judith Perlaki claimed that the "Nazis" tied together the legs of Jews to prevent them from giving birth to children. Joshua Kaufman claimed that the “Nazis” were throwing Jews into cement mixers.

Paul Waldmann claimed that the “Nazis” murdered Jews with incredible pedal-driven brain-bashing machines. Some more amazing testimonials are for example: musical Nazi camp dogs ripping Jews who played false in the orchestras to death, Jews who were pumped to death with water....

...gay people who were tickled to death, instant kill of 20,000 Jews with atomic bombs, rollercoasters that propelled Jews directly into the ovens, but perhaps the most amazing: the electrical masturbating machines that killed Jews by "masturbating them to death".

Do you believe in these outstanding stories above? If your answer is yes, then why doesn’t even a semi-serious historian share your belief in these stories anymore? If the answer is no, congratulations – you are now an official holocaust denier.

– and why, then, would we believe in the notion of homicidal death chambers? Why reject one absurdity and accept another?

Holocaust denial: the radical notion that those who lied about human soap, lampshades, shrunken heads, electric floors, rollercoasters of death, masturbation machines, anus gas pumps and the peddle-driven brain-bashing machine aren’t telling the truth about death showers.

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    [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    After WWII Germany was NOT FREE but controlled by Britain, Russia, and the USA who got to rewrite history. They also defined the terms of surrender and compensation.

    Germany did not choose to pay the Jewish work camp slaves - they were forced to.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_reparations

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_reparations#Holocaust_victims

    " Germany concluded a variety of treaties with Western and Eastern countries as well as the Jewish Claims Conference and the World Jewish Congress to compensate the victims of the Holocaust. Until 2005 about 63 billion euros have been paid to individuals. Additional payments by German companies which exploited forced workers have been made. "

    63 Fucking BILLION Euros

    Holocaust victimhood is BIG BUSINESS.